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https://www.npr.org/2021/11/29/1058...nic-fatigue-syndrome-may-offer-a-guiding-star

NPR: "For patients with long COVID, chronic fatigue syndrome may offer a guiding star"

Some excerpts:

"The deep fatigue Fisseha experiences is one of the most frequently reported long-term effects of COVID-19. It's known as "post-exertional malaise," a worsening of symptoms such as pain or fatigue after physical or mental exertion."

Alison Sbrana knows better than most people what that "if" means."

"She has myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS). It's a disease with a lot of symptoms that overlap with long COVID."

"There is this presumption that perhaps it's just depression or anxiety, or perhaps it's the pandemic or the state of the world, but people know when there's something wrong with them," says Jaime Seltzer, director of scientific and medical outreach at #MEAction, which advocates for people with ME/CFS.

She says there are lessons doctors and researchers can learn from people like herself.

"People with chronic complex disease have been living with this for decades. Researchers have been studying this for decades," Seltzer says. "We definitely need to make use of the path that we've beaten down over time and start basing our hypotheses off of what we've seen in these diseases with other labels."
 
It appears that the lead researcher on one of the $470M NIH initiative is a psychiatrist, which I guess means they have little intention of actually solving this. The NIH does seem willing to waste a billion dollars.


Mount Sinai Named a Lead Site for Enrollment in Nationwide Study on the Long-Term Effects of COVID-19
https://www.newswise.com/coronaviru...g-term-effects-of-covid-19/?article_id=761297

“Understanding the long-term effects of SARS-CoV-2 on human health is one of the great scientific challenges of our time,” said the lead Principal Investigator of the adult cohort, Alexander W. Charney, MD, PhD, Assistant Professor of Psychiatry, Genetics and Genomic Sciences, Neuroscience, and Neurosurgery at Icahn Mount Sinai.​

There is something remarkable about committing every single mistake and failure made before. At least he doesn't appear to be a BPS ideologue, but still, a whelming meh:

His expertise is in the genetic architecture of neuropsychiatric disease and integrative approaches to analyzing multiscale datasets. He has been the lead data scientist on genetic studies of schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, including genome-wide association studies, copy number variant studies and rare sequencing variant studies. Currently, he plays a lead role in several of the largest studies in the field of psychiatric genomics.​
 
I don’t understand what “RTHM” is, but it looks like they are offering the same low evidence treatments that are used at the specialist ME/CFS clinics.

yes, I’m bitter. I’ve done dozens of these treatments and they were largely ineffective.

It is good if more patients can access this care, in many ways it is the best we have. But it’s hardly a breakthrough.
 
Merged thread

Wales: Doctor with long Covid found to have multiple blood clots in his brain


Dr Ian Frayling, 62, a retired NHS genetic scientist, has battled long Covid for more than a year and a half
A doctor who became very unwell with Covid-19 at the start of the pandemic was later found to have multiple blood clots in his brain which could easily have killed him.

Dr Ian Frayling started suffering with a "bone-cracking" fever, muscle pain and a "cough like no other" in March 2020, weeks before the national lockdown was announced by the UK and Welsh governments.

His condition then took a turn for the worse when he started experiencing problems with his breathing and encountering such extreme brain fog that entire days would pass him by.

The 62-year-old said his "frightening" range of symptoms, which also included irritable bowel syndrome, disruptive sleep and difficulty with coordination, persisted for many months and left him a fatigued shell of his former self.

After sharing his story with WalesOnline 12 months ago, Dr Frayling was invited to meet the Senedd's health committee in March 2021 to give evidence of his battle with long Covid. It led to a respiratory consultant reaching out to him and offering him a full clinical assessment at the University Hospital Llandough.

Not only did she find problems with his heart and blood pressure, which were to be expected, but a referral for CT scans in May 2021 revealed that he was living with several blood clots in his brain which were very likely to be attributed to the after-effects of coronavirus. It meant suffering a catastrophic stroke was highly likely.

"The consultant looked sobered up as hell

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/health/doctor-long-covid-found-multiple-22277494
 
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Dr Ian Frayling, 62, a retired NHS genetic scientist, has battled long Covid for more than a year and a half

Poor guy.

It's kind of annoying when clinical get all the free tests and work out what's wrong with them and recover, but it does at least add to the "told you so" collection.

(Edit - I mean "told you so" to the guy, just to the rest of the world)
 
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https://www.upi.com/Health_News/202...chronic-fatigue-syndrome-study/1531638207439/

"'Long COVID' symptoms similar to chronic fatigue syndrome, study finds"

"People with "long-haul" COVID-19 have symptoms of chronic fatigue syndrome and other breathing problems months after first testing positive for the virus, a study published Monday by the Journal of the American College of Cardiology found."

"Nearly half the participants in the small study met the criteria for chronic fatigue syndrome, or myalgic encephalomyelitis, the data showed."
 
Dr Ian Frayling, 62, a retired NHS genetic scientist, has battled long Covid for more than a year and a half

It would be fantastic if everyone with LC was examined this thoroughly, instead of being fobbed off as neurotic, or benefit seeking. Wonderful to get effective treatment too.

Same wishes for ME!!!
 
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It appears that the lead researcher on one of the $470M NIH initiative is a psychiatrist, which I guess means they have little intention of actually solving this. The NIH does seem willing to waste a billion dollars.

Another NIH researcher is blaming 'anxiety'. As I said, the NIH seems like it will throw Long Haulers under the bus.
 
[This hopefully is 'just' the immediate after effects of Covid infection]

UK Snooker Championship 2021: Mark Williams falls asleep during Anthony Hamilton defeat

"I need to be playing in the mornings really, or afternoons. The more the day goes on the more tired I get.

"It's disappointing but there's a lot worse people that have had Covid than I've had it, so I'm one of the lucky ones really.

"It's definitely better than what it was a couple of weeks ago so I've just got to keep going, but if I play night matches I'm going to really struggle."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/59457433
 
https://www.phillyvoice.com/long-covid-chronic-fatigue-syndrome-symptoms-treatment-research/

PhillyVoice: "Chronic fatigue syndrome may provide valuable insights into long COVID"

"Studies have suggested that long COVID and chronic fatigue syndrome not only share symptoms, but similar biological markers."

"An article published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences also found the conditions share similar biological markers, including oxidative stress, systemic inflammation, a low metabolic rate and an impaired ability to generate adenosine triphosphate – an important source of energy.

"The body's response to infection and injury is complex and covers all body systems," said Bindu Paul, a pharmacology and molecular sciences professor at Johns Hopkins University. "When that response is in disarray – even just one aspect of it – it can cause feelings of being tired, brain fog, pain and other symptoms."

"These findings have led to a call for more research on long COVID to involve a comparison to chronic fatigue syndrome on a molecular level."

"Advocates for long COVID and chronic fatigue syndrome patients hope that focusing on the shared pathways of the two illnesses will lead to better treatment options, according to NBC News. Right now, there are no Food and Drug Administration-approved treatments for either condition."
 
https://www.upi.com/Health_News/202...chronic-fatigue-syndrome-study/1531638207439/

"'Long COVID' symptoms similar to chronic fatigue syndrome, study finds"

"People with "long-haul" COVID-19 have symptoms of chronic fatigue syndrome and other breathing problems months after first testing positive for the virus, a study published Monday by the Journal of the American College of Cardiology found."

"Nearly half the participants in the small study met the criteria for chronic fatigue syndrome, or myalgic encephalomyelitis, the data showed."
thread on that study here
https://www.s4me.info/threads/use-of-cardiopulmonary-stress-testing-for-patients-with-unexplained-dyspnea-post–coronavirus-disease-2021-mancini-et-al.23614/

eta: includes links to articles about the study
 
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