Michael Sharpe skewered by @JohntheJack on Twitter

Simon Wessely doing what he does best

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Anil and omar being social media savy as always :thumbup:
 
Mike Godwin
I should stress that I'm no expert. Because there's no consensus (that I'm aware of) about the aetiology and pathogenesis of ME, I should say that it's no surprise to me that there is such disagreement about theories of treatment.
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"No consensus about aetiology", yet healthcare policy is based purely on the subjective unblinded rantings of a few powerful industry psychiatrists who advise the DWP and private insurance industry and claim that the cause is false illness beliefs that can be cured by CBT and GET even though they have to falsify, change protocols and recovery definitions and spin every study they have done for three decades.

If there's no consensus there should be no recommneded treatments.
 
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There's no consensus bc BPS cabal have monopolized the narrative for thirty years, and through bad PR/fake news discouraged legit researchers from researching it (until now.)

And as Donner said,
If there's no consensus there should be no recommneded treatments.
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And most certainly no harrassment/legal action/kidnapping of families struggling with this disease. <--Right there is proof that MS's "Wasn't there"/ "not aware of how shaped policy"/"just a trial" angle is a criminally negligent (at best) PoV.
 
Slightly off-topic, but I don't understand twitter. I see people posting tweets between SW and Godwin, Anil van der zee and Godwin, and other snippets. But I look at SW's twitter page and I can't find the thread of tweets and replies, ditto with Godwin's page, and also Anil's twitter, and I can't find where these twitter exchanges are actually going on! Can someone help?
 
Arnie Pye said:
Slightly off-topic, but I don't understand twitter. I see people posting tweets between SW and Godwin, Anil van der zee and Godwin, and other snippets. But I look at SW's twitter page and I can't find the thread of tweets and replies, ditto with Godwin's page, and also Anil's twitter, and I can't find where these twitter exchanges are actually going on! Can someone help?
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You probably need to look on ‘tweets and replies’ rather than their main profile
 
Nathalie Wright said:
You probably need to look on ‘tweets and replies’ rather than their main profile
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Ah - if that's the case then I have to sign up to twitter to read them. And I don't want to do that. But having said that, I have managed to read long threads on Twitter before. I don't know what the difference was on those occasions.
 
large donner said:
"No consensus about aetiology", yet healthcare policy is based purely on the subjective unblinded rantings of a few powerful industry psychiatrists who advise the DWP and private insurance industry and claim that the cause is false illness beliefs that can be cured by CBT and GET even though they have to falsify, change protocols and recovery definitions and spin every study they have done for three decades.

If there's no consensus there should be no recommneded treatments.
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Couldn't agree more, well said!
 
Arnie Pye said:
Ah - if that's the case then I have to sign up to twitter to read them. And I don't want to do that. But having said that, I have managed to read long threads on Twitter before. I don't know what the difference was on those occasions.
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I find that if I click on the main body of the tweet I'm taken to that tweet and others in it's immeadiate thread - try that?
 
I'm not at all sure I want M Godwin weighing in. He seems well versed in a general and possibly superficial way in these issues but it may be that his allegiance to the powerful Old Boys Network could prove problematic when it comes sown to making any kind of statement. In fact, he has not said anything but that he is interested in looking. He's a lawyer and for all we know having a look could mean parsing all the info for slander or libel and not at all what we think he's doing.

I just can't bring myself to trust the integrity of these British establishment members (a vague term I know) to give a fig about being transparently honest. They are masters at using language to dissemble and sound like they've said something when it's all bollocks.

OTOH, it would be interesting if SW inserted himself in the convo at this moment just to invite MG so that when MG comes up with some middle ground waffling SW can be seen as a real stand up guy. The timing is interesting. There have been signs, the 'mene mene tekel upharsin' that not so far in the future people will agitate for action through legal means.

Machinations. That's all I expect. I don't hold my breath for MG to be at all supportive of a community of people who have suffered greatly as a result of BPS treatments. But I've been wrong before.
 
Snowdrop said:
Machinations. That's all I expect. I don't hold my breath for MG to be at all supportive of a community of people who have suffered greatly as a result of BPS treatments. But I've been wrong before.
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It's interesting just how many 'chums' SW seems to have. I don't necessarily expect that MGodwin'll be supportive, but he's been given links that counter PACE on a public thread - they're there for anyone to read - and the more the information is out there the harder it becomes for anyone to naysay the facts. My 'being very realistic' best expectation is that he reads the material and is non-committal.
 
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