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Trisha Greenhalgh on ME/CFS and Long Covid

Discussion in 'UK clinics and doctors' started by Helene, Jan 13, 2021.

  1. Sarah94

    Sarah94 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    To be fair that may well be from anti lockdown or anti mask idiots. Wouldn't surprise me at all sadly.
     
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  2. Andy

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    Actually, looking more closely, it looks like the later, at least for the forum's and my own account. I obviously can't speak for anybody else.
     
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  3. MSEsperanza

    MSEsperanza Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    From another thread:
    Edited to add: Agree though that the main point still is that she mutes erveyone likely to disagree with her.

    Edited to add 2: It's even worse -- she now says she "had to" mass-block people.
     
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  4. Andy

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    I think it's a relatively moot point whether she blocks accounts completely, or just blocks anybody else other than her approved audience from a particular thread, she's still shutting out views that she doesn't agree with, no matter if they are accurate or not.
     
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  5. Hoopoe

    Hoopoe Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Liste to patients. Unless the patients disagree with you. Then they are trolls and should be blocked.
     
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  6. cassava7

    cassava7 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    She's been blocking individual accounts, including ME patients who haven't interacted with her.
     
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    AR68 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Greenhalgh has blocked the @RFH1955 Twitter account which I run.
     
  8. Barry

    Barry Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Yes, I saw on a TV news report a few days ago, where doctors and nurses are striving so hard against tremendous odds to look after so many Covid patients, and trying to keep themselves together under the strain of it all. And then at the end of their shift, as they walk out of the hospital, they have to go past protesters with banners and shouting that covid is all a hoax, and there is no threat from it. People are weird.
     
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  9. rvallee

    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    If there's one good thing that could come out of this is pushing Greenhalgh out of the LC picture. She's coming off very poorly, mass-blocking (so much for patient engagement) and tweeting with replies disabled. It's revealing how unserious these people are, so-called experts in medical evidence pushing an anecdotal case even as they dismiss hundreds of thousands of consistent complaints and basic common sense. Doesn't help to continue to deny PEM, which the LC community knows very well.

    It's going to be used to push CBT/GET onto LC, I'm pretty sure of that. Lots of people will embarrass themselves very publicly. Some people will have reached the recovery point and will be OK, many will be permanently hurt and will speak out. It's a blow but ultimately it's a self-goal, it reveals the rot at the center of EBM, how biased and incompetent the entire field really is.

    Frankly it's not as if the UK was ever going to contribute to the solution. If anything it may expedite the demise of the BPS model, they are clearly escalating commitment with disregard for consequences.
     
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    Esther12 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Sounds like she did it sadly.

    https://twitter.com/user/status/1354108486163066880


    https://twitter.com/user/status/1354110116837150723
     
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  11. Jonathan Edwards

    Jonathan Edwards Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    A bunch of single-issue campaigners. The irony is, I sympathise with their issue but I don't agree with *everything* they say. So I am on a hit list.


    That sounds a bit unconvincing.
    That isn't why she is on the hit list I think.


    Has Garner's piece been edited? There seems to be a bit about people who did not get better missing, or am I imagining that?
     
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  12. Adrian

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    Or that is the message she wishes to propogate to make her sound reasonable.
     
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  13. Esther12

    Esther12 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Yeah - I probably needed a smilie in there.
     
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  14. Adrian

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    Possibly but I find emojis challenging.
     
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    Keela Too Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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  16. Adrian

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    I think she is using a blocking tool which is based on followers and doing it in batches of 500.
     
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    @Jonathan Edwards did you see that Greenhalg suggested on Twitter that we should do a clinical trial of GET for longcovid? She started mass blocking ME/CFS patients afterwards.
     
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  18. rvallee

    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    "Single-issue campaigners".

    Let's... shut down all cancer-related stuff because it's a single issue... issue?

    Why are cancer activists always talking about cancer cancer cancer?!

    When you don't have a real argument...

    And if her insulting indifference is being sympathetic... oof. She has been insulting to us for years, that's the exact opposite of being sympathetic. Whatever...
     
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  19. Arnie Pye

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    My emphasis...

    She appears to have changed her mind on "not blocking critics". She's now blocked thousands of people on Twitter, including many who have never heard of her and many who have never interacted with her or referred to her in any way. So, her Twitter account will be an absolutely perfect example of an echo chamber from now on. How sweet - and pointless.
     
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  20. Andy

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    Update, the forum account is now definitely blocked but not my personal one (so far).
     
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