Yes, I did get that impression. Also I had conversations with the RCP NICE team who were at the 2 stakeholder meetings. They did give the impression that the evidence searches and the drafting would be done by their team members with input from the GDG members. My strong impression was that the RCP's National Guidelines Centre staff think that they very much control the process with the GDG merely rubber stamping what they do. NICE may have given one impression through Prof Mark Baker but I don't think that is how the NGC staff think it works at all. As an example, I had a conversation with a senior member of the RCP's and they said a team member would do the evidence search and they were surprised when I explained the problems. They didn't seem to be willing to get their head around it. In part this is a bureaucracy that thinks that quality is whatever Cochrane tells them it is. I see huge battles with the RCP's guidelines group ahead.