Independent advisory group for the full update of the Cochrane review on exercise therapy and ME/CFS (2020), led by Hilda Bastian

It’s standard establishment tactics keep stonewalling with non responses for years in the hope people will give up, run out of money or motivation to pursue their complaint.

Another standard establishment tactic is to kick something off into the long grass of a review, at the beginning this makes people think progress is being made. But it depends very much on what the review consists of.........
 
NelliePledge said:
It’s standard establishment tactics keep stonewalling with non responses for years in the hope people will give up, run out of money or motivation to pursue their complaint.

Another standard establishment tactic is to kick something off into the long grass of a review, at the beginning this makes people think progress is being made. But it depends very much on what the review consists of.........
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Fully agree. But from their perspective, at this time they would be idiots if they were not consulting lawyers in some cases when deciding how to reply. Idiotic they may be in some ways, but I doubt they are when it comes down to self preservation.
 
Barry said:
Fully agree. But from their perspective, at this time they would be idiots if they were not consulting lawyers in some cases when deciding how to reply. Idiotic they may be in some ways, but I doubt they are when it comes down to self preservation.
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How awful, that they know it's bad enough to consult with lawyers, but yet they still won't put a stop to the harm it's all causing! I just don't understand how they can live with that, and then to also throw back the nonsense responses...
 
Kirsten said:
How awful, that they know it's bad enough to consult with lawyers, but yet they still won't put a stop to the harm it's all causing! I just don't understand how they can live with that, and then to also throw back the nonsense responses...
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Well, we don't know for sure that they are consulting lawyers and even if they are they are perfectly entitled to.

It's the fact it's so blatant that patient interests come a very distant last in their priorities. This should undermine their credibility & yet they seem confident that it doesn't and with good reason it would appear.

I see no problem with someone making a good living out of helping & healing people but when patients are seen as marks or walking cash cows then I have a huge problem with that.
 
NelliePledge said:
It’s standard establishment tactics keep stonewalling with non responses for years in the hope people will give up, run out of money or motivation to pursue their complaint.
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Agreed. The NHS has very deep pockets, along with even longer arms. There is no way they would run out of money to defend themselves in a court of law because they just use taxpayers' money. And all they really have to do is have more money than an individual patient, and that would be pretty much everyone.
 
Kirsten said:
How awful, that they know it's bad enough to consult with lawyers, but yet they still won't put a stop to the harm it's all causing! I just don't understand how they can live with that, and then to also throw back the nonsense responses...
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It is only a supposition of mine, that's all. But I find myself asking: "Would they not be consulting lawyers at this time, given how they are forever dropping themselves in it?"
 
Daisymay said:
Good grief.....is that what happens in journals too, that papers can only be retracted if the authors agree?
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It's definitely preferred that there is a general agreement. But journals retract or correct things when they need to over the objections of authors. In many cases, some co-authors on a paper might agree to a correction or retractions while other co-authors won't.
 
Jonathan Edwards said:
She used the future tense. Something to happen, in time.
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“At the appropriate juncture, in due course, in the fullness of time” as Sir Humphrey might say.

As far as I’m aware we’ve not had any news of progress since Hilda was appointed IAG lead over a year ago. Last April we were told there would be a progress report “soon”. In February we were told “A progress report is a high priority, and plan to have it out well before the end of this month.”

@Hilda Bastian Can you tell us whether any members of the IAG have been appointed yet?
 
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