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Crawley speaking at ESPID, Sweden 2018

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS News' started by Revel, Jan 2, 2018.

  1. Revel

    Revel Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Invisible Woman Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I've "liked" this but ....:mad:
     
  3. Revel

    Revel Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I know! Talk about having "a finger in every pie". Just how many digits does this woman have?
     
  4. Revel

    Revel Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I've just noticed that ESPID's Board President is Adam Finn.

    Finn is Professor of Paediatrics at . . . wait for it . . . University of Bristol. Well, isn't that a stroke of luck for Crawley?
     
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    "Meet the Professor Sessions
    Meet the Professor Sessions will be held on Wednesday, May 30 and Thursday, May 31 between 07:00 and 07:50. There is no need to register for these sessions. If the room is full you may need to choose to attend a different session. "

    "Participants are encouraged to submit educational or controversial cases to one of the Meet the Professor sessions (see session list below) by selecting the relevant abstract topic and sub-topic (click here to view the list), and by selecting the stream: Case Report or Case Series during the abstract submission process ."

    "What the PID doctor needs to know Chronic Fatigue "

    http://espidmeeting.org/2018/scientific-information/meet-the-professor-sessions1#.Wku2XrhizCM
     
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    Is anything EC does? Apart from slag us off that is.
     
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    Esther12 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    He's one of the people praising the Science Media Centre in this video: http://www.sciencemediacentre.org/film/
     
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    I note that Benoit Chassaing from Georgia State University will be speaking. His research has shown that emulsifiers in processed food leads to Crohn's Disease and colitis in mice. He's an expert on the gut and chronic inflammatory disease.

    One can only hope Chassaing will ask Crawley some probing questions.
     
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    Does it being an infectious diseases forum imply any unstated concessions by Crawley?

    Just asking for a friend...
     
  11. Alvin

    Alvin Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Typically infectious diseases are caused by viral or bacterial infections, since Ester claims this is psychological she has no expertise to speak at a conference about real diseases. Of course that only applies when patients are considered humans with dignity, since she thinks of us as below contempt she is given free reign to treat us as such :emoji_face_palm:
     
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    She doesn't. Recently she's been saying it's 'physical', although it's not really clear what she means by that. I don't think it really matters. What matters is that she's misleading people about the efficacy of her treatments.
     
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    Oh so we can now treat physical diseases now by denying they exist :emoji_face_palm:
    This house of cards is growing
     
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  14. TiredSam

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    I think "Fingers Crawley" has a certain ring to it.

    "Chronic fatigue" counts as an infectious disease because it can be transmitted amongst a patient population via the mechanism of mass hysteria. It therefore falls within Fingers Crawley's area of expertise.
     
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    Do the rest of the speakers adhere to same world view?
     
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    It is very instructive to watch this video. I see a group of people being smarmy, condescending, self-congratulatory, arrogant and in many cases, embarrassingly naïve. The woman from Imperial epitomises their tacky commercial approach which has now engulfed UCL as well. Adam Finn and all the others are basking in the flattery of being able to say what great science they are associated with.

    It is not actually about telling the public about science. It is about putting the public right about the science people want to be able to do but the public are being a nuisance by not liking very much. A bit like Trump's golf course in Scotland - people need to know how really great it is.

    There are so many quotes that in time will come back to haunt the champions of SMC: how it allows scientists to proactively communicate the truth, for instance.

    I would be interested to know what the science director at the BBC now thinks of all this.
     
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    Who will she be "defending medical science" against, I wonder? Vexatious patients?? :confused:
     
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    If she is going to cover her "research" then she is going to use alternative facts and claim its medical science?
    Is there not some sort of ethics board that regulates her profession and credentials?
     
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    Oxford English definition of "post-truth":

    "Relating to or denoting circumstances in which objective facts are less influential in shaping public opinion than appeals to emotion and personal belief".

    Won't this mean that Crawley will be on the wrong side of this debate, given that she bases her work on her own personal belief of CFS rather than the objective facts (aka biological research)?
     
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    Note " Chronic Fatigue" not CFS
     

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