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Cochrane ME/CFS GET review temporarily withdrawn

Discussion in 'PsychoSocial ME/CFS News' started by Trish, Oct 17, 2018.

  1. arewenearlythereyet

    arewenearlythereyet Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    At last a good decision ...poor MS ...what excuses is he going to come up with now?...I don’t care about the article as long as we can stop MS, Wessely etc using it as justification/endorsement.

    A huge thanks to all those who made this happen

    Think it might be timely to pull out the “thing of beauty quotes” from Wessely?
     
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  2. Barry

    Barry Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I could believe he might be busily engaged in another blog post? :)
    One thing you can always rely on ... is MS will invariably have an excuse ready.
     
  3. Alvin

    Alvin Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Blaming patients for being anti science and malicious and stupid
    Its about the playbook for reality deniers and it usually works out for them.
    Eventually the tide turns...
     
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    Kalliope Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    NelliePledge Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I think it’s notable that they’ve had to resort immediately to the bullying activist line - because they do not have anything of substance to use to support their position.
     
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    Kalliope Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Cinders66 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Unfortunately Clare and hubby are extremely influential with medics. Clare’s projects include caring for the mental health and well being of GPs, so lots of visibility and gratitude, Sir lord reigious Simon is virtually untouchable but has many connections and influence.

    But this is generally brilliant news.

    I just very much dislike sick knowledgeable patients fighting for truth and justice dismissed as “bullying activists” it is a way to immediately draw sympathy for the persecuted scientists and discredit us.
     
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    inox Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    FINALLY!!

    I'm not even bothered about the expected pouting - this is really happening!! :party:

    And amongst the pouting, this very quotable statement from Tovey: “This not about patient pressure,”

    and:

    “We are in discussion with the review author team about this review following a formal complaint to me as Cochrane’s editor in chief, which we judged to raise important questions.”


    And as we all know, even without seeing the actual questions - there are no good answers to them. Finally - someone listened!

    Edit: And a heartfelt thank you - to those that made this happen!
     
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  9. Dolphin

    Dolphin Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    The title of this thread should be changed.
    The Cochrane CBT review is separate from the Cochrane exercise review.
     
  10. Trish

    Trish Moderator Staff Member

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    Sorry, I'll change it!
     
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    Keela Too Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Oh! I hadn’t picked up on that. Is this only about CBT not GET also?
     
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    Dolphin Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Only about GET not CBT.
     
  13. Andy

    Andy Committee Member & Outreach

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    No, only about GET.
     
  14. Keela Too

    Keela Too Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Ah okay- I’ve just been back to the article and seen that. I initially read it as both. :facepalm:
     
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    inox Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    She's a new name for me, but I understand from your comment that she is married to Wessley? Or am I misunderstanding...? :)
     
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  16. Andy

    Andy Committee Member & Outreach

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    No, no misunderstanding.

    Conversation around the dinner table must be delightful, "So darling, how many sick people did you cause to have totally ineffective, and possibly harmful, treatment today??"
     
  17. Keela Too

    Keela Too Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Yes Clare Gerada is married to Sir Simon Wesseley
     
  18. Binkie4

    Binkie4 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I too was mistaken and thought it was CBT/ GET, and @dave30th tweet referred to them both.

    I ‘ll need to read the Reuters thing again. It was awful. Who is Kate Kelland?
     
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    Michelle Established Member (Voting Rights)

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    Yeah the moment I saw this, I tweeted thus:

     
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  20. Binkie4

    Binkie4 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    She was also Chair of the RCGP ( Royal College of General Practitioners) so they are “a power couple.”
     

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