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Claire Fox (Fiona's sister)

Discussion in 'Other health news and research' started by Estherbot, Apr 24, 2019.

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  1. SallyC

    SallyC Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Yorkshire is getting a Spiked/LM Brexit Party candidate too. James Heartfield. I'm not posting this to be political, just to make people aware that his network is very much in the SMC's pocket.
     
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  2. Robert 1973

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    Private Eye column on Claire Fox: A Fox in Farage’s coop: https://www.private-eye.co.uk/sections.php/hp-sauce?section_link=hp_sauce&issue=1495 (my bold)
    It’s a great shame that its medical columnist, Dr Phil Hammond, has such a conflict of interest (working at one of Dr Crawley’s CFS clinic), otherwise Private Eye might have been a useful ally against SMC, PACE, MUS, IAPT etc.

    (For anyone unaware, here are Dr Hammond’s Private Eye articles on CFS and PACE, where he seems intent on using all his knowledge and experience to try to appear to be all things to all people: http://www.drphilhammond.com/blog/2016/12/20/private-eye/private-eye-medicine-balls-1432-updated/ and http://www.drphilhammond.com/blog/2016/12/20/private-eye/private-eye-medicine-balls-1433-updated/)

    It’s also a great shame that those like George Monbiot and Alan Rusbridger who have previously criticised the SMC have shown no interest in its campaign against people with ME.
     
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  3. NelliePledge

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    Yes it’s disappointing so many seem to have a blind spot on ME @Robert 1973
     
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  4. rvallee

    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    All thanks to Wessely's successful "dangerous militants" / ME "lobby" campaign. The best bullies always paint themselves as victims. Too many people bought it hook, line and sinker.

    It will look horrible when people understand that it was always deflecting criticism from sick people begging for their lives and raising the alarm about a disastrous social experiment, but for now it's wildly successful and no one wants to touch us with a ten-foot pole.
     
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  5. Sean

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    The omertà is powerful in this cult.
     
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  6. NelliePledge

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    Trying to not be party political just highlighting that CF is all over the BBC in the last few days.
     
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    Just remind them that we object to the term chronic fatigue, except in its particular meaning.
     
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  9. arewenearlythereyet

    arewenearlythereyet Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I’ve just decompressed from listening to her do a full rant...luckily there was no mention of ME although her opponent had a dig about the rights of people with mental health issues ...which was skirted over I noticed ...to be honest if you have sound sensitivity ...just be prepared with earplugs before she comes starts talking.
     
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  10. NelliePledge

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    Meant Claire Fox not chronic fatigue
     
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    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Just as exhausting, though.
     
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  12. NelliePledge

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    Hell yes
     
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  13. fivetowns

    fivetowns Established Member (Voting Rights)

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    Ugh I just saw this in the guardian today

    Not good for us considering her links to the SMC and public stance on PwME ☹️!

    Edit: Fixed quotation problem
     
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  14. Robert 1973

    Robert 1973 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    If only the climate were conducive to growing bananas. We could set up a republic.
     
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    I am a strong supporter of free speech.

    But my hard earned cynicism says that what at least some of the signatories really want is the right to lie and defame with impunity, which is not a right I support in any form.

    Even the USA recognises that free speech is not an absolute right, that it has limits, albeit broad ones.
     
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    From George Monbiot's article, linked in the tweet in this post

    "Fiona Fox is also the director of the Science Media Centre, the public relations body set up by Baroness Susan Greenfield of the Royal Institution. It is funded, among others, by the pharmaceutical companies Astra Zeneca, Dupont and Pfizer. Fox has used the Science Media Centre to promote the views of industry and to launch fierce attacks against those who question them."

    Wow. Didn't realise it was quite this bad.
    If this is all public knowledge, how on Earth have SMC become the go-to source for all things science?!

    Surely their input breaches BBC impartiality rules?
     
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    The political angle of the 'free speech' debate is outside the scope of this forum, so I won't comment.

    I find it a great relief to have this forum as an online space that is not a free speech space, but is governed by rules members agree when they join, and implemented by mods with the committee's support and oversight.
     
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  20. Barry

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    Agreed. It does not mean your "right" to free speech trumps everyone else's human rights. It's a right conditional on not abusing the rights of others in the process. And the human rights of pwME have been so very much abused down the years.
     
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