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USA Centers for Disease Control (CDC) news (including ME/CFS Stakeholder Engagement and Communication Calls) - next event 6 May 2024

Discussion in 'News from organisations' started by Sasha, Oct 24, 2017.

  1. Kalliope

    Kalliope Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    This post has been copied from the Long Covid thread here

    Just discovered that CDC has updated information about ME and Covid-19. Perhaps it's been shared before, and I've forgotten, but here it is:

    ME/CFS and COVID-19: What we know

    CDC is working with partners and stakeholders to better understand post-COVID conditions and how they affect people with ME/CFS. Currently, there are limited data and information about the long-term effects of COVID-19. A recent report found that COVID-19 can result in prolonged illness, even among adults without underlying chronic medical conditions. Future studies will help identify whether some people with delayed recovery develop an ME/CFS-like illness.

    It is especially important for people at increased risk of severe illness from COVID-19 to protect themselves. Currently, ME/CFS is not included in the list of medical conditions that increase risk of severe illness from COVID-19. However, people with ME/CFS might consider taking extra precautions to reduce their risk of getting COVID-19. We are learning more about COVID-19 every day. As new information becomes available, CDC will continue to update our recommendations and guidance.

    https://www.cdc.gov/me-cfs/index.html
     
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  2. Tom Kindlon

    Tom Kindlon Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    The CDC Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Stakeholder
    Engagement and Communication (SEC) call took place on December 16,
    2021. During the webinar, patients, advocates, caretakers and medical
    professionals heard an update from Dr. Beth Unger, chief of the
    Chronic Viral Disease Branch, which works on ME/CFS. Guest speaker,
    Dr. Hector Bonilla gave a presentation titled, "Is ME/CFS Another Face
    of Long Covid?"

    From: Dr. Marc-Alexander Fluks


    Station: CDC / YouTube
    Date: December 16, 2021
    WebTV:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty8UB6V76cI



    URL:
    https://www.cdc.gov/me-cfs/pdfs/SEC-transcript-December-2021-508.pdf
    https://www.cdc.gov/me-cfs/pdfs/CFS-Covid-presentation-508.pdf

    Item: CDC ME/CFS SEC Call, december 16, 2021


     
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  3. ahimsa

    ahimsa Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    These results will NOT be a surprise to anyone on this forum. :rolleyes:

    Also, I did not see any date for this story on webmd.com! (but maybe I missed it?) But I know this study must be relatively recent since the data collection was done from Jan-June 2021.

    Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: The Need to Raise Awareness

    https://www.webmd.com/chronic-fatigue-syndrome/features/chronic-fatigue-study
    I looked for a link to the actual survey that was published but somehow I couldn't find it.

    I think the title of the study is the first item listed in the sources at the end of the article (see quoted section below, first item). But the list of sources is text only, no links.
     
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  4. ahimsa

    ahimsa Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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  5. Trish

    Trish Moderator Staff Member

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  6. Hutan

    Hutan Moderator Staff Member

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    Post by @rvallee about tweets from a journalist commenting on the lack of availability of CDC staff for discussions:
    Long Covid in the media and social media 2022
    There are interesting tweets there in the twitter thread, some suggesting that the CDC may have found itself operating in a very difficult political environment. A natural response of CDC staff to that, along with the difficulties of working through the pandemic, may have been to greatly limit availability to answer questions from journalists.
     
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  7. Art Vandelay

    Art Vandelay Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I came across this on reddit:

    I assume it's this meeting:

    I've had a look on other social media to see if this can be verified, but haven't seen anything.

    Edit: https://twitter.com/user/status/1525214908198989824
     
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  8. Andy

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  9. NelliePledge

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    So how on earth did he get invited? @dave30th CDC removing GET from their website doesn’t mean much if they still allow it to be promoted in their own meetings
     
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  10. Ariel

    Ariel Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Who or what is behind people like this being invited to speak at such meetings and calls?
     
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  11. Art Vandelay

    Art Vandelay Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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  12. rvallee

    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    No wonder the CDC is failing Long Covid, refuse to do anything about it. They literally can't learn, are stuck in the ideology. This is absurd level of incompetence and frankly a slap to the face. The CDC are being insulting on purpose with this stuff.

    https://twitter.com/user/status/1525353830036082689
     
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  13. NelliePledge

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  14. Trish

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    Unger's response is hopelessly clueless and insults patients' intelligence.
     
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  15. NelliePledge

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    Yes weasel words. How is that meeting the right context for “engaging with mainstream opinion” they need to set up professional meetings involving professionals who have a clue to enlighten mainstream opinion.
     
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  16. Ariel

    Ariel Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I don't understand the force behind persisting in saying that CBT and GET can be "management tools in the right setting" (Unger on screenshot). What is the angle? Why are they doing this?
     
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  17. cfsandmore

    cfsandmore Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Lie to the patient.
     
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  18. SNT Gatchaman

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    He was also a reviewer of the IOM Beyond Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome report (2015). I couldn't find any other authored publications related to ME/CFS in PubMed.
     
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  19. Milo

    Milo Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I take offence in Dr Unger's mention of "mainstream medicine" as she seems to be excluding ME within the realm of mainstream medicine. I think it was tactless and injurious, especially during the ME Awareness Month.
     
  20. rvallee

    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    They won't admit they were wrong. At this point it must have to do with liability, as long as they don't admit they were wrong, ME can continue to be suppressed. There is precedent for class-action lawsuits about medical advice that continued after it was known to be wrong. Until it's admitted, it can't be used in court. Same with tobacco, liability could be kept at bay as long as it could continue to be denied.

    Doubtful there is any other reason at this point, it's too pathological and it's dying on the smallest hill ever built. There is simply way too much documentation about having been warned repeatedly, those calls are basically ongoing evidence of their blatant refusal to acknowledge reality. And it allows to continue ignoring Long Covid, which is clearly a political priority, as government policies directly lead to mass disability, to people dying, in combination with refusal to acknowledge the existence of post-infectious chronic illness.
     
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