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Trudie Chalder, BPS and MUS proponent - presentations, interviews and news

Discussion in 'UK clinics and doctors' started by Esther12, Sep 2, 2018.

  1. Ravn

    Ravn Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    And here I was thinking that pretending to be well and acting as if healthy was the solution to all manner of illnesses...
     
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    I think that the real research question that needs to be funded and answer is why Trudie Chalder not retire and focus on knitting and gardening?
     
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    I think for the likes of Trudie Chalder it was never just a career but a belief system which they can never let go of.
     
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    I agree. The problem is actually something quite different. It is the need for doctors to understand enough about biochemistry to be able to explain to their patients why they should take allopurinol and the arguments for and against continuing.

    The situation is actually much more complicated.

    Allopurinol lowers plasma rate levels. That in itself does not stop gout because gout is due to shifting around of crystal deposits that have taken months or years to build up in joints and take about three months to dissolve once irate levels are low enough for that to happen. Moreover, while the crystals are dissolving gout tends to be more likely to occur perhaps because the deposits become unstable.

    So you need to explain to the patient that the first objective is to go on taking allopurinol for at least three months, whether or not they have any attacks, which they may well do, to get rid of deposits.

    Once the deposits have gone the situation is different. Continuing with allopurinol is designed to prevent new deposits forming over a long period. If the rate has come down with weight loss in the interim there may be no need. If no attacks of gout occur it is not unreasonable to stop allopurinol for a while if it is inconvenient to take - perhaps on holiday. The decision to continue long term in the face of no deposits and no attacks is a matter of weighing up pros and cons. Most intelligent people would probably agree that it is worth taking the drug to prevent another attack maybe in a year or so's time, but if the rate level is not very high they might get away without it.
     
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    That's the most common behavior, most people downplay illness rather than exaggerate it.

    Which probably makes the whole MUS/FND thing so fascinating to those people, how the norm is for people to downplay health concerns whereas there's "us" who do the opposite, so unnatural.

    Somehow they can't imagine that it's them who are the outlier in this process. That takes psychological flexibility, self-efficacy and being unbiased. Because every thing they say and do is pure projection...
     
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    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Fountech Ventures
    team; Portfolio Advisors Dr Trudie Chalder Psychotherapist
    https://www.fountech.ventures/#team

    o_O
     
  8. Arnie Pye

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    There are thirty people listed on that link, and presumably they all want a return on their investment. Only three of them (and one of them is Trudie Chalder!) appear to have any claim to medical knowledge (two clinicians and a psychotherapist, wow!), so I assume there isn't much of a plan to get involved in medical technology. Just imagine how expensive it must be from the customer's point of view. It must be like having a family of thirty to support.
     
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    Presumably the deal is: we stick a picture of you on our website so that rather than just looking like another gang of sharks in a sea of mendacity and hype, we look like rather well-connected sharks, and then if you ever tip us off on anything investable, we’ll cut you in for a share of the loot at the next funding round.

    Not an expensive ecosystem to support, and presumably this offer is available to anyone who gets stuck talking to one of the founders at a dismal party.
     
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    This was recently discussed in Useful arguments regarding the evidence provided by psychological and biomedical ME research?
    Here are transcripts.
    2-min Twitter vid
    5-min highlight vid
    Edit: Break into manageable-sized paragraphs
     
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  11. JemPD

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    Adam is the 2min video & the original on youtube? If so do you have links please? I find twitter really difficult & nobody i want to show them to is on twitter
     
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    Adam pwme Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Sorry it's not on YouTube but here is a copy if you want to send it direct to anyone.

    https://gofile.io/d/qZcaeA
     
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    The finger of blame in depression and the brain
    The finger of blame in depression and the brain - King's College London (kcl.ac.uk)


    hmm says the mother of patient blaming
     
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