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The Guardian - Rod Liddle vilifies disabled people. I’m tired of the hate. We all should be (2019) Frances Ryan

Discussion in 'PsychoSocial ME/CFS News' started by Cheshire, Mar 19, 2019.

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    Sbag Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    chrisb Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    She does not sound intimidated.

    I wonder how he can be so sure that "speaking to some of your science colleagues" would change her mind. What does he know, that we do not?
     
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    Jonathan Edwards Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Perhaps the science colleagues will be primed to tell Frances Ryan that she should not be teasing the famous Dr Sharpe.
     
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    Andy Committee Member & Outreach

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    Probably more likely that he is trying to imply that she can't possibly be smart enough to understand it by herself.
     
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    fivetowns Established Member (Voting Rights)

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    Probably because that podcast about the Cochrane review was by the Guardian?
     
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    I do think their media strategy while successful is misplaced: because of the underlying flaws with their ‘message’ ie poor underlying research.

    Each time they intervene like this, they generate more attention by their behaviour & people dig into the background & hey presto.

    Tbh thought it has been a good result primarily of their conduct, to get Frances Ryan involved to the point if writing this piece, even when unwell & short of energy herself. She has been ‘onside’ before & I think this is for us an important step. Other colleagues, less clubbable than science/health journos will probably now be much more likely to take a look.

    Ed changed ‘if’ to ‘of’ in para 1;
    ‘is’ to ‘while’ in line 1
    A couple of minor typos
     
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    Diluted-biscuit Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Yeah he knows which side of the fence the guardian is on with this...
     
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    "speak with some of your science colleagues"

    Damn, did he write that while swirling a brandy and puffing on a cigar and resting his feet on a human footrest?

    Alternative take of what Sharpe wrote: "now now, young lady, the adults are speaking so run along now".
     
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    Not what, who. He actually knows less about this disease than most of us here, but he knows all the right people to convince otherwise. And that's the only reason he feels confident in making nonsensical arguments.
     
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    I think that was written with other readers in mind, not Frances Ryan. He's basically telling readers that if only FR would speak to scientists ...

    It's basically a parting shot to the world in general as he huffs out of the rooms and slams the door with as much dignity as he can muster.
     
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    It's not for her benefit, it's for his benefit, so that the uninitiated readers of his tweets will assume she's just misinformed...
     
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    I suspect Sharpe's replies are often intended more for the benefit of unwitting onlookers.

    Edit: Just seen that @Snow Leopard got there before me :).

    Edit 2: Actually - everyone got there before me!
     
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    I have great confidence in your conclusion. ;)
     
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    Michiel Tack Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I don't think Sharpe is saying this to Francis Ryan. In fact, I think he is just showing his twitter followers that she may be uninformed on the subject.
     
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    Yes, he is saying it to her, but is especially playing to the crowd I think; same as always. Like a market trader talking to one person amongst the onlookers, but words and ways carefully chosen to send a message to the others.
     
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    I always thought they are market vendors

     
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