Problematic training courses - please add

[MEMarge]

There is a course in Bath on Fri 7 Dec. "Navigating the minefield: MUS and FII".
Program as bad as you would think. Accessible by link:

http://www.bacch.org.uk/about/SouthWest.htm

Consultant paed for CFS service, Bath seems to now be Dr Melanie Parker.

 

[andypants]

Health and Life Rebalancing Programme
https://www.fatigueguide.com/courses/

...Some of my clients had been stuck in the stress and fatigue cycle for so long that their condition had become chronic, but the recovery approach was always the same, focusing on the 3 key areas; Physical, Emotional, Psychological ( The PEP Approach) in order to rebalance the system.

As well as helping people who’ve been stuck for some time with conditions like Chronic Fatigue (CFS) and ME I also focus on helping people to avoid getting to that point. Experience has taught me that those chronic conditions don’t just suddenly arrive, when we look at the history of anyone suffering from a chronic stress-related condition there’s always been a build-up of stress over time.

Many people have shared with me that they were just getting by and then some additional stressor (a virus, work-related issue, bereavement, relationship stress etc.) arrives and seems to tip them over the edge and without the right help some of these people then get stuck for years or even decades.

What I’ve discovered is that whether the condition has become chronic, or you realise that your current stress and/or fatigue levels are unsustainable, there is a way to re-train your system, enabling you to live a happier, healthier and more fulfilling life.

 

[Esther12]

There is a course in Bath on Fri 7 Dec. "Navigating the minefield: MUS and FII".
Program as bad as you would think. Accessible by link:

http://www.bacch.org.uk/about/SouthWest.htm

Consultant paed for CFS service, Bath seems to now be Dr Melanie Parker.

Here's an archive of the programme, in case it goes offline: https://web.archive.org/web/2018091...rg.uk/about/documents/SWBACCH07.12.18prog.pdf

 

[MEMarge]

Thanks for archiving it @Esther12.

Does anyone know any teachers/health professionals who would be interested in attending?

 

[MEMarge]

@Esther12 Please could you also archive the UCLH course program #17 on this thread, or provide simple directions for the process!

UCL is very much under the influence. They are regularly using the if you don't do a, b or c then we will send in the socail workers.
One example: getting your teen to spend less time on their phone!

 

[Esther12]

@Esther12 Please could you also archive the UCLH course program #17 on this thread, or provide simple directions for the process!

UCL is very much under the influence. They are regularly using the if you don't do a, b or c then we will send in the socail workers.
One example: getting your teen to spend less time on their phone!

You mean just this?: https://web.archive.org/web/2018091...tre.org/uploads/CFS_course_timetable_2018.pdf

Any pages you want to archive, just enter them in the 'save page now' box in the bottom right: https://archive.org/web/

 

[Sly Saint]

ME/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Awareness Course

Price £49 inc VAT
Study method Online, self-paced
Duration 150 Hours
Qualification 150 CPD points / hours


"Overview
The comprehensive, and potentially life-changing, ME/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Awareness Diploma Course has been designed for the sufferers and carers of those with these conditions. Although designed with self-help in mind you do not need to be diagnosed with the syndrome to benefit from studying this course.

Our adrenal glands are small glands that sit atop our kidneys and deal with every stressor that enters our lives. Stressors include physical, mental and emotional events or long term coping, as opposed to being happy and regularly resting.

We live in a world of stressors and many people go into a state of burnout at some point. If the stress that the individual must deal with on a long-term basis outweighs their chance and ability to rest; ME or CFS may very well be the result. This course aims to help with the understanding of these conditions."

it gets worse....
full details here
https://www.reed.co.uk/courses/me-c...reness-course/81525?extlinksource=job-details

 

[Trish]

ME/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Awareness Course

So it's 150 hours learning that ME/CFS is the same as burnout. No thanks.
''This course is registered with the CMA (Complementary Medical Association)''
Mentions NLP and nutrition. Sounds like another version of LP, Gupta, OHC etc.
3 students have purchased it.

I notice on the same web page advertising this course, they list as 'similar' courses on on Canine Holistic Health and Therapy and one on Feline Behaviour and Psychology. You couldn't make it up!

 

[fossil]

Howard Schubiner, who is a founder of this organization, thinks CFS is a PPD.

'Our course teaches successful management of symptoms linked to psychosocial stress (Psychophysiologic Disorders or PPD)."

https://ppdassociation.org/online-course

https://ppdassociation.org/treatment-outline

"C. Help client reduce fear of symptoms

1. Educate client on the way in which fear can perpetuate pain cycle.

2. Encouraging client to gradually engage in activities he has avoided due to fear of pain or other symptoms.

3. Encourage client to engage in activities that often bring about pain or other symptoms, teaching him to use visualization/positive self talk during and/or before activity to promote symptom-free state."

Mentions CFS here;

https://www.ppdassociation.org/patient/

 

[fossil]

SIRPA (Stress Illness Recovery Practitioners’ Association)

This course is based on the theories of John Sarno/Howard Schubiner. That "emotional trauma causes your chronic pain" crap. (As mentioned in my above post.)

It's run by a UK physiotherapist, and says it is for health professionals.

https://sirpa-training-school.thinkific.com/courses/level-1-sirpa-introductory-course

The usual testimonial from a CFS patient;

https://www.sirpa.org/project/john-doe/

There's an - expensive - online course targeted at patients with chronic pain too;

https://sirpa-training-school.thinkific.com/courses/sirpa-online-recovery-programme

 

[Snow Leopard]

The usual testimonial from a CFS patient;

https://www.sirpa.org/project/john-doe/

The young man pictured is of course a stock photo. The testimonial doesn't sound quite like anything anyone I know (or on ME forums) would write, it seems edited to sound more favourable at the very least).
Mentions this study from 1995 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8542261 (Costa et al.)
And the pseudoscientific diagnosis "Tension myositis syndrome" and "TMS personality traits". The patient still reports chronic pain and doesn't mention any specific indicators of recovery, eg that they are currently working.

 

[ladycatlover]

The usual testimonial from a CFS patient;

https://www.sirpa.org/project/john-doe/

Really great typo in this!

The first big step was reading a book which Louse recommended to me

(my bolding)

 

[JemPD]

The usual testimonial from a CFS patient;

https://www.sirpa.org/project/john-doe/

from the above link/testimonial..

He said this pain was physical in that it was caused by a temporary oxygen deprivation to certain parts of the body giving rise to symptoms and pain.

really? whats the evidence for that I wonder?

That was said with part sarcasm & part genuinely wanting to know if there were any evidence showing that.

 

[Sly Saint]

A Biopsychosocial framework for clinical practice- 14- 15 March 2020
by University College of Osteopathy

About the course
Have you ever worked with patients whose symptoms don't seem to fit the models and theories you normally use in osteopathic practice? Have you ever worked with complex clinical cases without understanding why, or how, patients think you are helping them? Have you ever felt that your treatment isn't as effective as you'd like?

This two-day course explores advances in understanding the biopsychosocial model of healthcare and ways of integrating physical and psychosocial care more effectively in clinical practice. Participants will be introduced to current theories and research demonstrating best practices and innovative ways of managing patients with non-specific musculoskeletal symptoms.

Communication and consent will be integrated into the practical activities in the workshop on mindfulness-informed approaches. Specific communication issues will include patient-centred approaches to exploring an individual's beliefs about pain with the aim of increasing awareness of the consequences of reactions to pain in daily life.

The psychological and mindfulness-informed approaches of Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) require patients to be willing to explore thoughts, feelings and physical experiences of discomfort, which can be distressing, so the workshop will focus on developing methods for requesting consent as an ongoing process.

https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/a-bi...practice-14-15-march-2020-tickets-54641040824

 

[rvallee]

A Biopsychosocial framework for clinical practice- 14- 15 March 2020
by University College of Osteopathy



https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/a-bi...practice-14-15-march-2020-tickets-54641040824

Is this sponsored by goop.com? It looks like the kind of thing that is sponsored by goop.com.

 

[Webdog]

Came across this CME and recent Seattle medical conference presentation by Dr. Peng Thim Fam for the medical education company Pri-Med. I don't have an account, so I wasn't able to see the actual CME, but I read through the slideshow and FAQ.

Pri-Med conference presentation on CFS, June 21, 2019 in Seattle (including slides)
https://www.pri-med.com/medical-conferences/regional-conference-seattle/agenda/sessions/qmonya0eg8uk

Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Continuing Medical Education (CME)
https://www.pri-med.com/online-education/webcast/south-2019-chronic-fatigue

FAQ for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
https://www.pri-med.com/online-education/podcast/pri-med-podcasts-fatigue

Among some of the issues:

• presents CFS as a subset of "chronic fatigue" patients (similar to UpToDate)
  
• reassure patients that CFS is benign and no harm is happening to their bodies
  
• recommends stimulants modafinil, caffeine, etc.
  
• deconditioning model/patients need to break the cycle of inactivity
• describes fibromyalgia as mostly CFS + widespread pain/tenderness
• recommends GET and CBT
• recommends sustained aerobic exercise
• tells doctors to stop further diagnostic testing after diagnosis

...we're quite sure that it is not caused by a virus or other infection ...We educate them that it is a benign disorder, that as bad as they feel, their body is not deteriorating.

Other than being deconditioned, they're not really getting muscle breakdown, or joint inflammation, or their brain is deteriorating, or that they have an autoimmune disease like lupus that is attacking the body.

So the symptoms may be present chronically, but they don't lead to objective evidence of tissue damage, so it's a benign condition. And the most important aspect of treating chronic fatigue syndrome is to use non-pharmacologic modalities, such as a daily exercise program. I find swimming, aquatic exercise, tai chi, yoga all to be beneficial, daily stretching.

Inactivity begets more inactivity, and it begets more fatigue. And when you try to exercise, you get delayed onset muscle soreness, so that the joint symptoms get worse, so you need to break this cycle of inactivity, and that is very important.

 

[Snowdrop]

This treatment modality says much more about Dr Fam and nothing at all about ME also known as cfs.

It goes beyond patronising the patient to IMO a level of dislike for the people he wants so much to 'help' (by bullying them).

 

[Snow Leopard]

PEM is not DOMS, it's frustrating when doctors don't listen to patients and then insist on their own (wrong) ideas.

 

[hellytheelephant]

One from the OHC:
"
Introduction to EFT and CFS, ME and Fibromyalgia

Overview
Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT) is at the forefront of the new field broadly defined as Energy Psychology.

By tapping on certain acupuncture points whilst being tuned into emotions, research has found that powerful releases and healing can happen. For over a decade the team at The Optimum Health Clinic has been developing applications of EFT for working with people with CFS, ME and Fibromyalgia. In this introductory series Emma Johnson, EFT trainer and OHC psychology practitioner, teaches the fundamentals of EFT as used by the clinic team."

https://www.consciouslife.com/introduction-to-eft-cfs-me-fibromyalgia/

Just to be clear- I am LIKING the person who posted this, not any of these garbage courses.

 

[fossil]

SIRPA (Stress Illness Recovery Practitioners’ Association)

This course is based on the theories of John Sarno/Howard Schubiner. That "emotional trauma causes your chronic pain" crap. (As mentioned in my above post.)

It's run by a UK physiotherapist, and says it is for health professionals.

https://sirpa-training-school.thinkific.com/courses/level-1-sirpa-introductory-course

The usual testimonial from a CFS patient;

https://www.sirpa.org/project/john-doe/

There's an - expensive - online course targeted at patients with chronic pain too;

https://sirpa-training-school.thinkific.com/courses/sirpa-online-recovery-programme

What's worrying on this page is the testimonials from pain societies. (My bolding.)

https://www.sirpaconference.com

“SIRPA’s Chronic Pain inaugural conference was inspirational. The NHS would save a fortune and peoples’ lives would be improved if the Recovery Programme was prescribed to everyone who is told by their doctor “We can’t find anything wrong with you.

Marian Nicholson of Pain UK & Pain Alliance Europe (2015)

I will freely admit, having dealt with chronic pain for over 25 years, that I was very sceptical about Georgie’s work. Attending the SIRPA conference completely changed my mind! Without exaggeration the conference was one of the most interesting and enjoyable meetings I have been to for years.

Here was something different that made sense of many of the anomalies that I have witnessed in pain medicine for years. The speaker presentations were of the highest quality, presenting high grade evidence and rationale scientific explanations for ACE theories. I will be very happy to support SIRPA in the future and look forward to the next conference.

Dr Martin Johnson, Vice-President of the British Pain Society

In the past seven years I have attended many events on Chronic Pain throughout Europe. I can honestly say that your event and one I attended in Brussels last November were the best I ever attended.

John Lindsay, Chair of Chronic Pain Ireland

This is a revolution in the treatment of chronic health conditions.

Dr Liz Croton, UK GP

An article about the treatment experiences of Dr Martin Johnson from the British Pain Society;

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...l-root-required-different-kind-treatment.html