Per Fink awarded the "Civil Courage" prize, Sept 2019

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  1. ladycatlover

    ladycatlover Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Urm there isn't a puke emoji here. Sorry, I should make a more together post but right now all I can say is this prize makes me want to VOMIT. Puke. Sick. And so on.

    I'm an angry old lady.
     
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    I couldn't find the thread about Per Fink hiring a PR firm - his institution is state run, correct? Who is paying for the public relations firm? Danish taxpayers?

    If they are, would they be happy that their taxes are going not to "health care" of a sort, but glossy brochure type stuff to defend a practitioner?

    If indeed it is the case that taxpayers are paying the bill.


    About the award for courageous patients, a name suggestion: courage in the face of government sanctioned medical tyranny.
     
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    Getting your mates to award you a prize is a great idea!

    Looking forward to my 'best talking snow leopard' award from you guys!
     
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  6. Dx Revision Watch

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    Compare with the EAPM's Alison Creed Award in memory of Alison Creed for life time achievement in the field of Psychosomatic Medicine/Consultation Liaison Psychiatry.

    (Alison Creed is the late wife of Prof emeritus Frances Creed.)

    https://www.eapm.eu.com/category/eapm-awards/alison-creed-award/

    Life time EAPM awardees
    2019

    Alison Creed Award: Prof. Else Guthrie, Leeds, UK
    Frits Huyse Award: Prof. Fritz Stiefel, Lausanne, Switzerland

    2018
    Alison Creed Award: Prof. Arthur J. Barsky, Boston, USA
    Frits Huyse Award: Prof. Marco Rigatelli, Modena, Italy

    2017
    Alison Creed Award: Prof. Per Fink, Aarhus, Denmark
    Frits Huyse Award: Prof. Graça Cardoso, Lisbon, Portugal

    2016
    Alison Creed Award: Prof. Michael Sharpe, Oxford, UK
    Frits Huyse Award: Prof. James Strain, New York, USA

    2015
    Alison Creed Award: Prof. Kurt Kroenke, Indianapolis, USA
    Frits Huyse Award: Prof. Francis Creed, Manchester, UK
     
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    This thread?

    https://www.s4me.info/threads/denmark-interview-with-per-fink-in-dagens-medicin.11218/

    Denmark: Interview with Per Fink in Dagens Medicin
     
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  8. Sean

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    Will this snazzy portrait of your good self do instead?

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    (Open pic in new tab for magnificent full size version.)
     
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    Article from Danish Medical Journal. I think it's inconceivable of the journalist to repeat the attacks on ME patients without covering anything about the patient's side of the story.
    Ugeskriftet: Per Fink hædres for at stå fast, når fagligheten står for skud
    google translation: Per Fink is honoured for standing firm, men the profession is attacked


    The highly activist ME Association (ME = myalgic encephalomyelitis) has for years harassed and discredited Per Fink and the center in Aarhus, where the association and its supporters have filmed patients and demonstrated in front of the research clinic at Nørrebrogade with banners, megaphones and calls from the bottom drawer. They have been angered that chronic fatigue syndrome is not categorized as a somatic disorder, and they do not believe that neither cognitive therapy nor graduated training is widely used as treatment. Yes, that can be downright harmful.

    ...

    - Could you have wished that voices other than your own rose in favor of professionalism when it comes to the treatment of functional disorders?

    “Many colleagues have refrained from interfering in the debate, which I can understand with the harsh tone there can be. But yes, I have missed that more people signed up on the track. It would be nice not to be the only one. But I think it's about to turn. That more voice their agreement, 'says Per Fink.

    ...

    “Diseases do not disappear because they are reclassified. It should be left to the professionals how a given disease should be understood and treated. Professionalism should always be at the forefront. As a stand we must constantly fight for, ”says Peter Vestergaard.
     
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    Professionalism does not automatically equal ethical behaviour. Somehow, society has conflated the two: ethics and professionals - professionals are better (superior) human beings. :banghead:


    The pocket Oxford English Dictionary indicates: "professionalism" is "the ability or skill expected of a professional."

    This dictionary defines a professional as: "1 relating to or belonging to a profession. 2 engaged in an activity as a paid job rather than as an amateur: 3 competent. 1 a professional person. 2 a person who is very skilled in a particular activity."


    Nothing said about ethics. Something that one would hope professionals have and use in working with more vulnerable people, e.g. patients. Unfortunately, not always the case.
     
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    If professionals aren't serving the needs of their clients, then who are they serving?
     
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    Oh, yes, they do. Literally Fink's work.
     
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    He could go on a nice holiday for that money. I think Simon Wessely recommended Afghanistan for this time of year....
     
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    Yes it would be very easy for Godwins Law to come into play but I will restrain myself.
     
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    Would that be the Scottish Play, not otherwise to be mentioned, or is this more a case of the PFink of Denmark?
     
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    There seems to be an "official" organization that has trademarked the term "Civil Courage Prize," and its related symbol, in the U.S.


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    http://www.civilcourageprize.org/



    I get the feeling that this organization had nothing directly to do with the prize awarded by the Jutlandic Medical Society. However, they do encourage the use of the term "civil courage," and, apparently, even encourage the use of the term "Civil Courage Prize" and its trademarked symbol.
    This seems kind of odd, since they would seem to have no control over how others use their trademarked property.

    This organization's intent, vis a vis the prize, is:
    [bolding mine]

    But since they don't seem to exercise any control over the use of the term, I suppose one could be awarded a prize of that name for flower arranging.

    Whether the Jutlandic Medical Society knew of, or intended to follow, the philosophy of the people who trademarked this "prize" is an open question. If this were their intention, however, I would take issue with the implication that those who are in opposition to a certain physician's opinions are "evil."
     
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  19. Jonathan Edwards

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    It is tempting to speculate that underneath all this is some clandestine organisation such as a cabal or the Freemasons.

    So the truth is evil now? That sounds fairly standard for certain part of the globe these days.
    All dreadfully Shakespearian I guess - or maybe Marlowe in disguise.

    I have a rule of always giving people the benefit of the doubt. However, as the plot unravels I realise that I have no need. These people must be in trouble to need to engage in these Lilliputian antics. No serious scientist would accept a prize in the context - for standing up to reasonable criticism by patients.
     
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