Opinion: ‘You don’t want to get better’: the outdated treatment of ME/CFS patients is a national scandal - George Monbiot

My goodness, if Mr Monbiot really gets the bit between his teeth ....

We appreciate you sir!

 

George is going in strong

 

Discussion of George's previous writing on ME/CFS and Long COVID here, https://www.s4me.info/threads/george-monbiot-on-me-cfs-pace-bps-and-long-covid.20126/

 

Thanks, I'd forgotten all about that thread!

 

Trial By Error: Guardian Columnist George Monbiot Calls Out the GET/CBT Charlatans and the Fraudulent PACE Trial

https://virology.ws/2024/03/14/tria...cbt-charlatans-and-the-fraudulent-pace-trial/

 

George Monbiot kicks ass. Are we expecting some typical BPS style response in the Guardian? Something signed by the BPS "all-star" crew, sans HM Sir Lord Professor Simon Wessely, of course.

To be honest, I kind of would like that to happen, hoping that it will give more incentive to Monbiot to take these people down in some grand scale investigative article that goes into details and even covers stuff like the "there is a way" message and such, when they tried to influence NICE's work behind the scenes. I'm really hoping he won't stop here (or at least that this gives rise to some more interest from other journalists). It may not happen but it would be great.

 

Yes, I think for once we may be in a win-win situation, whether they respond or not. In this instance at least, the tables appear to have turned.

I can assure you that George is not intending to stop here.

 

Perhaps things will remain quiet.
Perhaps it is the first time the BPS Pooh-Bahs have been criticised by a more important person than them!

 

Is pooh-bahs used over there? I mean, i've used it, obviously, but not sure if it's an Americanism.

My gut is that they don't want to take this on and, if they respond, it will just get worse for them. I think it is now, to an extent, open season on criticizing them.

 

@dave30th
To be precise, Nanki-Poo was the Lord High Executioner and Pooh-Bah was the
Lord High Everything Else

Edit: The LHE was of course Ko-Ko, my mistake. Nanki-Poo was Yum-Yum's beau.

 

oh, right! of course. I never saw The Mikado. I was in pirate in Penzance in 6th grade and as a junior in college, so that's the one I know best. And went to Penzance finally a couple years ago.

 

Letters
Why ME/CFS is still so poorly researched and treated
Readers respond to George Monbiot’s article on the treatment and attitude of the medical profession to the debilitating condition

These are the responses in the Guardian so far. Among others, you can read one from Charles Shepherd but as always, you can also count on having one from Paul Garner and Michael Sharpe each (at the very end).

Edit: Sharpe's sounds more like a lazy tweet.

 

George Monbiot appears to confuse the doctor paying attention to a patient’s fears and emotions with dismissing their illness as somehow “unreal”. I suggest such a view is ill-informed and likely to be unhelpful for patients with any illness.
Prof Michael Sharpe
Department of Psychiatry, University of Oxford

Sharpe's reply is like being savaged by a dead sheep

 

Excellent. It would be hard to think of two damper squibs than the last couple of letters.

This is good from Garner:'a school of thought supported by scientists who believe the condition is a complex interplay between the biological and psychological.'

Yes, well, can we be done with believing and follow a bit of evidence?