2/29/24, Conspirituality: “
Long COVID with Tara Haelle” (
and wikipedia of Tara, science writer
at Forbes, if helpful)
(On NIH RECOVER) “there's a lot of frustration about that within the long COVID community...”
“So I don't know if that's because of a difference in priorities. I don't know if it's, you know, oh, we have to know more about the disease in order to treat it, or if they just don't know which treatments to use.”
“But I know that there are a lot more drugs that other researchers want to test that they can't get funding for. So, you know, there is that. But they have found some, that immune study I mentioned, the one, it was done by Akiko Iwasaki, that immune system, like differences that was found, that was from that study, which is useful. So, I mean, it has found some good things, but I, there's a lot of frustration and disappointment from it as well.”
“I've since learned that people with ME deal with this double devastation of a chronic, often unrecognized and largely untreatable illness along with being mischaracterized as exaggerating, playing the victim or basically being hypochondriac.”
“It's often a life sentence with very little possibility of parole. It's bleak and it's unsupported by medical people and it's very misunderstood by lay people. The other thing I'd like people to know is that they actually can help.”
“And I think this is a good place to pivot, which is a question about how the long COVID community is learning from these chronic disease canaries in the coal mine, like people who have been suffering with ME/CFS for a very long time.”
“…long COVID's arrival is what allowed ME/CFS people to be heard at a greater level than they had heard before. They'd been screaming all along. It wasn't their fault they weren't being heard. Amazing, yeah. They were saying, look at me, look at me, look at me, listen to me. And some scientists were listening, but most weren't. They were dismissed..And I think what happened with long COVID is when a whole bunch of people experience these symptoms in a very short period of time with a very clear underlying cause, the acute infection, we couldn't ignore it, right?
And yet we still are, right? So it's, on the one hand, like you couldn't possibly ignore this. There's just, like I said, those three cities combined, 8.7 million people currently, there's just too many people living with it. And yet they still are facing that.
So on the one hand, it finally forced a lot of doctors and scientists to take other conditions that people had been screaming about seriously. Oh, maybe those people weren't crazy, right? And it is allowed the long COVID community to give a boost to those individuals. Now at the same time, yes, the long COVID community is learning from the ME/CFS community. And I think the biggest thing they're learning is that you have to do a lot of your own research. And those are some scary words.”
“I do think that the long COVID community is learning from ME/CFS people, if not just doing their own research, also how to organize and advocate for themselves. And the combined voices are making a difference.”
“I know that we would not have had that RECOVER study if not for the patients advocating for themselves. That RECOVER study would not exist without the patient saying, give us a damn study. We need you to f*cking study this stuff, right? And I'm using those words intentionally because they needed to make themselves heard. And imagine how hard that is to do when you're already living with this condition, right? Yeah, so using the tiny amount of energy you have to advocate for yourself and research and organize.”
“With long COVID, researchers, whether because of curiosity, whether because they've learned their lesson, whatever the reasons, they are partnering with these communities. And that means that there's two-way education going on. It means that patients are learning what the scientific process is and how it works and how things are assessed. And I think that's a really positive development. So I have more hope with the long COVID sort of giant social experiment than the failed non-experiments because they weren't experiments because we ignored them of past conditions. It doesn't mean I have Pollyanna hope. I mean, we can still f*ck this up.”