Michael Sharpe skewered by @JohntheJack on Twitter

Nasim Marie Jafry said:
I think Sharpe should leave medicine and go into pantomime, he has demonstrated his skills this evening.
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Pantomine at Christmas, following on after a season of Strictly Come Dancing which he'd fit in whilst being an MP, and throw in Emeritus Professor at Oxford, and he can follow on as President of RSM after Wessely and then in his dotage finish his career in the Lords.
 
Keela Too said:
@Adrian I've sent you a few more files with screen captured tweets. File nos now go up to number 15 (let me know if they have all arrived) that will take the series up to post number 1500 on this thread.

Many thanks also to a @large donner who kindly sent me an Amazon voucher as a thankyou for doing this - it was not required, but the thought was greatly appreciated. I'm going to enjoy browsing Audible offers later tonight. Then tuning in to my next listen. Ahhhh.... :)
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A huge thanks to @Keela Too for making sure all the tweets are captured. Here are documents capturing all of them.

I've put up the rest now:
Posts 1-100
https://www.s4me.info/docs/SharpeTweets1.pdf
Posts 100-200
https://www.s4me.info/docs/SharpeTweets2.pdf
Posts 200-300
https://www.s4me.info/docs/SharpeTweets3.pdf
Posts 300-400
https://www.s4me.info/docs/SharpeTweets4.pdf
Posts 400-500
https://www.s4me.info/docs/SharpeTweets5.pdf
Posts 500-600
https://www.s4me.info/docs/SharpeTweets6.pdf
Posts 600-700
https://www.s4me.info/docs/SharpeTweets7.pdf
Posts 700-800
https://www.s4me.info/docs/SharpeTweets8.pdf
Posts 800-1000
https://www.s4me.info/docs/SharpeTweets9.pdf
Posts 1000-1100
https://www.s4me.info/docs/SharpeTweets11.pdf
Posts 1100-1200
https://www.s4me.info/docs/SharpeTweets12.pdf
Posts 1200-1300
https://www.s4me.info/docs/SharpeTweets13.pdf
Posts 1300-1400
https://www.s4me.info/docs/SharpeTweets14.pdf
Posts 1400-1500
https://www.s4me.info/docs/SharpeTweets15.pdf
 
Nice work, @Sly Saint.

Catch them out with their own words, the ones they voluntarily placed on the formal record multiple times, over decades.

Collate and cross-reference, and ye shall be rewarded.

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Jonathan Edwards said:
But I think it is reasonable to ask Dr Sharpe to agree to make a statement that psychological therapies should not be rolled out on the basis of evidence that uses PACE as 'gold standard'.
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Absolutely. Their refusal to stop the use of PACE to justify it condemns them more then anything else.

NelliePledge said:
I presume his mood wasnt improved by getting stitched up by SW in the exchanges with M Godwin
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Did wonders for my mood, I can tell you. A thing of beauty, to quote a knight of the realm. :D

Invisible Woman said:
A word of warning - the way IAPT is going in this country, other people with chronic illnesses will shortly be joining us in the shiny new MUS clinics.
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Perversely, that may help us in the longer term, as millions of patients across the board revolt. Neither they, the medical profession, nor the government can ignore that level of howling outrage and failure for long. Though they will try.

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One reason I think that PACE effectively disproved the underlying model (causal assumptions) is that everything was done to favour a positive result for CBT & GET, yet it still failed.

It really wasn't a hard test to pass.
 
Sasha said:


Why should ME patients have the slightest interest in meeting any challenge from Michael Sharpe?

The only reason for having any interest in what he's saying at all is that he's been party to a trial that's a piece of absolute crap and he needs to admit that in order to stop it harming patients any more than it already has.

His idea that he's in a position to set challenges for people to meet to in order to win his approval is so bizarre I don't even have the words for it.
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Absolutely and you articulated it very well. Likes x 1000
 
Barry said:
If that is not another way of saying "false illness belief", then what is? The exact term is not the issue, the meaning behind the term is the issue - and I don't think you could put a cigarette paper between them.
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Exactly. He is playing games with words, and not playing very well either.

Barry said:
Like, whether they believe in fairies? Dress to the left?
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Only communists, perverts, and those in denial of mental illness dress to left. All right thinking people dress to, well, the right.

Graham said:
These assumptions were based on results of questionnaires given out at ME centres. They found that people who were members of self-help group showed less improvement than those who were not. The psychs who support CBT etc. assumed, with their usual persecution complex, that this was due to patients being warned off the therapies, and having nothing but contempt for psychiatric conditions.

Of course, there are always other explanations, and a proper study would have considered them all. One obvious one is simply that all that was offered at these ME centres was a talking therapy, part of which was to help patients understand the condition, to accept the need for careful pacing, and to avoid boom and bust.
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Another is that the more seriously ill are more likely to join self-help groups.

Yet another is that those who have failed to get any help from doctors are more likely to seek help elsewhere, like from, I dunno, other patients who have had similar experiences.

But did they test any of these assumptions or inferences? Nope. Just like they failed for decades to be bothered testing the rather critical one about deconditioning.

Barry said:
Do I detect a reduction in arrogance and sarcasm?
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And an increase in desperation?

large donner said:
Any minute now he will claim he didn't make that quote in the Daily Mail and that his remarks were taken our of context by them. That may or may not be true, however as he is such a social media bunny why hasn't he denounced that article. Perhaps because they are his beliefs and the same as the nonsense remarks he made on Australian radio after the first set of PACE results.
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"We have a number needed to treat; I think it's about seven to get a clinically important treatment benefit with CBT and GET. What this trial isn't able to answer is how much better are these treatments than really not having very much treatment at all."

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational...son-of-treatments-for-chronic-fatigue/2993296

Leaving aside the fact that an NNT of 7 is not good, especially for such a poor effect size ("modest", in the authors' view), you'd think that they would test that bolded bit before recommending CBT & GET be rolled out.

Sbag said:
Another thing to point out to him is that we are positive and looking forwards.
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I am feeling more positive and forward looking about our prospects than I ever have. (Though the MUS and IAPT shyte being rolled out across the UK is very disturbing stuff. :eek: )
 
Daisymay said:
Pantomine at Christmas, following on after a season of Strictly Come Dancing which he'd fit in whilst being an MP, and throw in Emeritus Professor at Oxford, and he can follow on as President of RSM after Wessely and then in his dotage finish his career in the Lords.
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I'm thinking PACE in BOOTS - he could be the trickster cat. Jesus, you have to laugh - I am finding his charm offensive on Twitter really disturbing. He is so transparent. Dislocating though to see a medical professional spend last few months on Twitter insulting everyone involved w ME advocacy/exposing PACE and now opening his arms to understand us.
 
Peter O'Sullivan@PeteOSullivanPT"If we can appreciate that pain is a protective device, not a measure of tissue damage, if we can communicate that to people, then we change the game," Professor Moseley said. http://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2018-06-11/treating-lower-back-pain-without-drugs-and-surgery/9850798 …
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Pain is not a measure of tissue damage? Really!!

Pain is a protective device, yes correct, but there's countless reasons for someone needing that protective device not just one airy fairy notion that pain should be magically explained away to people without an actual diagnosis or why that protective device is saying, "pain be aware differential diagnosis required".

I just got a check gearbox warning on my car dash, it could be a simple fluid top up required or a fucked gear box that needs the whole thing replacing. Perhaps ill just top it up with fluid and be done with it?

No surprise though that Sharpe liked that tweet.
 
I think the people on twitter he keeps referring to as activists are extremely positive and are the kinds or people who have got us to the verge of positive changes despite 3 decades of being targeted by the BPS crowd and their negativity.

I think being on the end of their positivity is leading to negative consequences for him. That's his real problem.
 
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