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Open Epigenetics of Post-exertional Malaise in Patients With ME/CFS: Oct 2020 [This trial is not yet open for recruitment]

Discussion in 'Recruitment into current ME/CFS research studies' started by Sly Saint, May 9, 2020.

  1. Sly Saint

    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Sponsor Vrije Universiteit Brussel
    Overall contact Andrea Polli, MSc
    full details here:
    https://www.smartpatients.com/trials/NCT04378634
     
  2. Andy

    Andy Committee Member

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    So Fukuda :(
     
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  3. cassava7

    cassava7 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I've sent a mail to the contact person to ask them to include CCC ontop of Fukuda.
     
  4. Sarah94

    Sarah94 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    So Fukdupa ;)
     
  5. cassava7

    cassava7 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I resent the mail from another mail address because I'm not sure the first one went through (spam filter?). Here's Andrea Polli's response.
    My response:
     
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  6. adambeyoncelowe

    adambeyoncelowe Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I think you make a very good point. The US has specifically said PEM should be mandatory in its IOM report, so the likely outcome is that any study with optional PEM could be downgraded.
     
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  7. wigglethemouse

    wigglethemouse Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Neil McGregor gave a talk at the 2019 Australia ME/CFS Conference and it was recorded. In it he discusses a hypothesis that PEM could cause low acetate that affects HDAC1 and HDAC2 (and SMAD1,4,5) which then affects gene transcription of some genes found relevant to ME/CFS in other studies causing less protein to be made.
    https://mecfsconference.org.au/videos/neil-mcgregor/

    McGregor then published this paper that discusses HDAC
    Post-Exertional Malaise Is Associated with Hypermetabolism, Hypoacetylation and Purine Metabolism Deregulation in ME/CFS Cases
    https://www.mdpi.com/2075-4418/9/3/70/htm#B6-diagnostics-09-00070
    Thread : https://www.s4me.info/threads/post-...on-in-me-cfs-cases-2019-mcgregor-et-al.10260/

    The talk and paper is of relevance as this study is looking at HDAC in PEM.

    McGregor discusses that the only HDAC study in ME that he could find was Jason et al 2011 which showed 4 fold elevated HDAC2 in elderly CFS patients.
    Increased HDAC in association with decreased plasma cortisol in older adults with chronic fatigue syndrome
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0889159111001255?via=ihub
    Sci-Hub : https://sci-hub.se/https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0889159111001255?via=ihub

    Will be interesting to see what this study finds.
     
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  8. wigglethemouse

    wigglethemouse Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Cort wrote about HDAC in relation to McGregors study
    Source : https://www.healthrising.org/blog/2...gregor-metabolism-chronic-fatigue-glycolysis/
     

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