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Dr Myhill’s complaint to GMC about PACE authors.

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS News' started by Robert 1973, Jan 15, 2018.

  1. SallyC

    SallyC Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    wondering what will be Dr Ms next move

    On her recent Youtube update she said she expected the GMC to say this, and that the next step was a judicial review, which sounds like a very good plan.
     
  2. NelliePledge

    NelliePledge Moderator Staff Member

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    what decision is Dr M considering asking for a judicial review of?
     
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  3. SallyC

    SallyC Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Not sure but I think a court is a better forum than the GMC?
     
  4. NelliePledge

    NelliePledge Moderator Staff Member

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    judicial review against NICE guidelines (if thats what they have in mind) was already tried some years ago though and wasnt successful
     
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  5. Esther12

    Esther12 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Yeah... than the GMC. It still seems like a lot would be stacked against us. It feels like this action is coming a few years too soon, and I'm not sure Myhill is the best figurehead either. To be successful with a judicial review we'll have to first make more progress elsewhere imo.
     
  6. adambeyoncelowe

    adambeyoncelowe Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    We can always try again later?
     
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  7. Esther12

    Esther12 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    If you lose then a precedent is set that makes things more difficult in the future. If PACE/Wessely/etc win a legal ruling, the BMJ splash it juiciest parts all over the journal, but when they lose, they avoid doing so. These sorts of things shape the environment that we have to try to make progress in.
     
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  8. Inara

    Inara Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Without some risk we'll get nowhere.

    A lawsuit is most often like playing roulette. You never know how the judge will decide although of course you try to make him decide in your favor. Mostly judges, authorities and their experts stick together. That makes it even more difficult, but less roulette. (That's not a positive for us.)

    One negative verdict, which might be a precedence, doesn't mean it's over. The same holds for a positive verdict. (Unless maybe the verdict was spoken by the highest court. But then the fight continues, maybe not before court.) In a war there are always several battles. Since the discrimination against us is systemic we will need to fight many battles, e.g. several lawsuits could be needed, over many years, by many people.
     
  9. Yvonne

    Yvonne Established Member

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    I, too, have received a response to my complaint to the GMC that they will not be taking the matter further. Among other things, I specifically complained about the signatories to a letter to The Independent in 2012 which was part of a SMC-orchestrated media campaign to portray ME researchers as beleaguered victims and ME patients as extremists.

    This was not addressed in my letter and their reasons given for not investigating (cannot investigate funding, academic debate, methods of treatment and diagnosis, can only investigate registered doctors) would not apply in this case.
     
  10. Tilly

    Tilly Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I also got a negative but I have a question does anyone know who educates the medical profession with regards to ME. I know M Sharp wrote a book for Occupational Health and I know the Choices are educators and SW has something to do with that. I need info on how this all this works. Any ideas
     
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  11. Sbag

    Sbag Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I haven't had a final response yet - maybe they are taking their time wading through them all
     
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  12. NelliePledge

    NelliePledge Moderator Staff Member

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    maybe your case presents issues they are struggling to find a way of not investigating?
     
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  13. Sbag

    Sbag Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    lets hope so :), it was with relation to insurance companies and their "experts" quoting cbt and get when denying claims
     
  14. It's M.E. Linda

    It's M.E. Linda Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I had no written evidence to supply but was effectively “warned off” applying for medical retirement by the Occ Health Consultant (who temporarily took off her ‘working for my employer’ hat). She knew I needed to get the procedure completed as the Occ Health procedures were making my condition worse with the stress.
    She advised me that if I applied for retirement, aged 54, I would have to start these OH procedures all over again, but they would go on for years as no Consultant could categorically state that I would never be able to work again before my retirement age of 66. I knew that CBT/GET would also be used. We could have fought for it but I was also going through a very long ESA procedure as well and I couldn’t cope with more stress.
    I accepted dismissal on the grounds of medically certified absence and was awarded some compensation.
     
  15. NelliePledge

    NelliePledge Moderator Staff Member

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    leaving work due to ill health shouldnt be such a lottery @It's M.E. Linda Im sorry about that. I hadnt started engaging with benefits when I put in my ill health retirement claim but I know exactly what you mean about dealing with one process being enough to cope with. I didnt claim ESA until after my ill health retirement process was nearly finished because I couldnt cope with both. And I had gone through a CFS clinic group CFS managment programme already - luckily not full on GET in my area and I knew not to sign up to any exercise.
     
  16. Sbag

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    I forgot to post update - I got the standard bog off letter
     
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    Eagles Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Merged thread

    Dr Sarah Myhill: My Complaint to the GMC about the PACE authors

    https://www.drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/My_Complaint_to_the_GMC_about_the_PACE_authors

    1 OCTOBER 2019 - UPDATE - ICO SLAPS DECISION NOTICE ON GMC!

    You can download the full Signed Decision Notice here - ICO Full Signed Decision Notice re Myhill vs GMC

    GREAT NEWS regarding my complaint to the GMC about the PACE authors

    The Information Commissioner’s Office [ICO] has slapped a Decision Notice on the GMC. The GMC must release the evidence base for its determination not to investigate the PACE authors or admit that there was no evidence base for that decision. If there is no evidence base, then I will take the decision not to investigate the PACE authors to the High Court for a Judicial Review.

    The GMC has consistently refused to release any evidence base for its decision not to investigate the PACE authors and so one might assume that there is no evidence base!...
     
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  19. NelliePledge

    NelliePledge Moderator Staff Member

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    They - Dr Myhills team- are very dogged on this. Credit to them for their persistence.
     
  20. strategist

    strategist Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Nice.
     
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