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Cochrane Review: 'Exercise therapy for chronic fatigue syndrome' 2017, Larun et al. - Recent developments, 2018-19

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS news' started by Trish, Jun 18, 2019.

  1. Barry

    Barry Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Didn't say which year though!
     
  2. Snow Leopard

    Snow Leopard Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
  3. Snowdrop

    Snowdrop Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Yes, if nothing has come out I'm now thinking the future may never come (so to speak). Although it was less optimism on my part and more a passing whim to guess. :bored:

    Hilariously I just had the thought (if we were all financially better off) that we could start betting pools on this sort of thing and donate the proceedes to a pre-selected ME charity.
     
  4. Snowdrop

    Snowdrop Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    lol. So I did not. Could be 2035. A reason to hang in there.
     
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  5. Sly Saint

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    Patient groups demand sanctions on those who fail to report clinical trial results
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    second on the list is Cochrane.

    https://www.transparimed.org/single...ose-who-fail-to-report-clinical-trial-results

    (hmm does that include Cochrane reviews?)
     
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  6. Snow Leopard

    Snow Leopard Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Going on 2 and a half months, I think it is clear the authors and the editor (who presumably would insist on the changes suggested by her predecessor) do not agree.
     
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  7. NelliePledge

    NelliePledge Moderator Staff Member

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    Or are on holiday.
     
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  8. Snow Leopard

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    For two and a half months? Sounds like my perfect job!
     
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  9. Trish

    Trish Moderator Staff Member

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    Maybe it has had to go through a whole new peer review process. That could take a while if the reviewers disagree or are on holiday.
     
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  10. NelliePledge

    NelliePledge Moderator Staff Member

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    Even longer if disagree and also away on holiday
     
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  11. large donner

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    Or maybe Sharpe et al are busy behind the scenes disagreeing on who should be the next editor.
     
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  12. Esther12

    Esther12 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Every time this thread is bumped I feel nervous.
     
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  13. chrisb

    chrisb Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    They could give you CBT for that.
     
  14. Snow Leopard

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    Maybe you should go on holiday?
     
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  15. Esther12

    Esther12 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Why do I suspect that the NHS would rather give money to a CBT therapist than to giving me a break?
     
  16. rvallee

    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Hey, no big deal. People are being harmed long-term despite a clear evidence trail from Cochrane editors being aware that the evidence for those recommendations is as biased as it is hollow while population surveys continue to report consistent evidence of harm. In addition of course to the fact that the current disastrous outcome was predicted and well-documented, only to be dismissed without valid reasons.

    Is it bad to knowingly make medical recommendations that lack any evidence and lead to harm? Yes, yes it is. Very bad, in fact. It certainly should be very expensive.
     
  17. andypants

    andypants Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Still nothing?
     
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  18. Mithriel

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    I am very paranoid about the BPSers. Could they have been waiting for the revised risk of bias rules to be published so they could put out the review and say that the problems of bias levels in the complaints has now been resolved as there is no longer any conflict with Cochrane's rules?
     
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  19. Jonathan Edwards

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    I don't think that is likely. RoB2 has been in progress for about 3 years.

    My understanding is that there are some discussions occurring mid September. Whether there are other reasons for delay I don't know.
     
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  20. Mithriel

    Mithriel Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I hope that is the way it is :)
     
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