Tymes Trust - No reported harassment of staff at Bristol University

Trish said:
She left the impression, without actually stating it, that it had a parallel with animal rights activists, as suggested by a member of the audience.
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Trish said:
It does seem from a quick skim of this evidence that there was a definite plan, egged on by the SMC to run a media campaign that over-stated harassment of CFS researchers, deliberately conflating FOI and data requests with a few unpleasant e-mails, and egged on by police advice to interpret these as equivalent to violent animal rights activists.
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Sean said:
We have already have had a high level legal case that tested the harassment and intimidation claims, the FOI appeal by Matthees, and the tribunal completely and unanimously dismissed the claims as baseless.
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They tried comparing their "harrassment" to that of animal rights activists at Mathees tribunal too, It was resoundingly condemned by the judge as baseless and exaggeration
 
sea said:
They tried comparing their "harrassment" to that of animal rights activists at Mathees tribunal too, It was resoundingly condemned by the judge as baseless and exaggeration
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And they consulted Support4RS:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/92m09l9tq55pihh/Behind the Scenes - Research Collaborative.pdf

Behind the scenes: Setting up the UK CFS/ME Research Collaborative (UK CMRC)

"- Support4rs – work with Peter White and Simon Wessely to develop resources for dealing with harassment"


http://www.support4rs.com/

Support4RS offers security-related support on animal research issues

(The Support4RS website is currently off line.)


Extract from:

http://www.sciencemediacentre.org/w...researchers-experiencing-harrassment-2013.pdf

SMC publication

Advice for researchers experiencing harassment

Support4rs
Originally set up to support animal researchers,
Support4rs has developed a good understanding of
what to do to protect yourself against those with
extreme views. They can give advice on the profile
of someone with extreme views, how to deal with
complaints, harassment, a large volume of FOI requests
and give advice on the risks you may be facing.
Contact info@support4rs.com
 
Dx Revision Watch said:
And how are "militant, radical and active" defined and by what means and by whom are those allegedly identified via a list differentiated into one of these categories?
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Well I guess I must be on their list... Moderated on Co-Cure for a few years. Demonstrated outside DoH on May 12th I think 3 years on the trot, plus lobbied my MP in HoC too. Oh, and went to the Judicial Enquiry thingy too.

May 12 International ME Day by Maggie, on Flickr


Mary and me by Maggie, on Flickr


Royal Courts of Justice, Trev and friend by Maggie, on Flickr
 
Alvin said:
This is random but that is amazing penmanship, i could not be that good on large print
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Trev doesn't have ME himself - his daughter does. Hence why he turns up at demos (or used to, it's over 10 years since we went to one). So as a "healthy" it was prob easier for him to make the sign.

I'm sure I used to have many more photos, but they've died in old computers I guess. I'm a bit lazy about uploading to Flickr. Or backing up anywhere else too. :oops::rolleyes:
 
Support4RS website has been off line for some months.

Some pages are available on Wayback Machine

https://web.archive.org/web/20160616185952/http://www.support4rs.com/

https://web.archive.org/web/20160911151746/http://www.support4rs.com/about-us/

"...Working with a diverse global commercial client base developing critical incident management structures and providing support, guidance and response for extremism, terrorism and crimes in action, support4rs consistently reinvests the knowledge accrued for the benefit of its clients..."
https://t.co/7wbKmCxnI1
etc.

Support4RS is a service jointly funded by:
BIS, HEFCE, BBSRC & MRC

Support4RS is supported by:
AMRC, UUK & The Wellcome Trust
 
ladycatlover said:
Well I guess I must be on their list... Moderated on Co-Cure for a few years. Demonstrated outside DoH on May 12th I think 3 years on the trot, plus lobbied my MP in HoC too. Oh, and went to the Judicial Enquiry thingy too.


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Of course we all know that's no ordinary walking stick that ladycatlover is clutching.

Were you frisked before entering the HoC for hidden compartments...poisoned tips and the like...
 
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Dx Revision Watch said:
Of course we all know that's no ordinary walking stick that ladycatlover is clutching.

Were you frisked before entering the HoC for hidden compartments...poisoned tips and the like...
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I think there was a cursory glance into John's ruck sack and my handbag. In fact afterwards I remembered I was actually carrying a knife in my bag! :arghh: Only a tiny one, in a Victorinox Swiss Card (check it out in the usual places), but very sharp and I reckon you could do serious damage to a person with it! :eek:

Nearly got shot on our way out one year though! Sitting in my wheelchair waiting for a cab to arrive, chatting to the very nice policeman with a machine gun in his hands... Cab arrives, I pick up my metal folding walking stick that I had along the side of the wheelchair and shook it to open it. It goes click click click rather loudly, next minute that machine gun is pointed at me! :emoji_scream: Fortunately the copper saw the funny side, and helped John fold up wheelchair while I got into cab. Was a bit of a scary moment though! :emoji_rolling_eyes:
 
ladycatlover said:
I think there was a cursory glance into John's ruck sack and my handbag. In fact afterwards I remembered I was actually carrying a knife in my bag! :arghh: Only a tiny one, in a Victorinox Swiss Card (check it out in the usual places), but very sharp and I reckon you could do serious damage to a person with it! :eek:

Nearly got shot on our way out one year though! Sitting in my wheelchair waiting for a cab to arrive, chatting to the very nice policeman with a machine gun in his hands... Cab arrives, I pick up my metal folding walking stick that I had along the side of the wheelchair and shook it to open it. It goes click click click rather loudly, next minute that machine gun is pointed at me! :emoji_scream: Fortunately the copper saw the funny side, and helped John fold up wheelchair while I got into cab. Was a bit of a scary moment though! :emoji_rolling_eyes:
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Crikey, ladycatlover, what a story!
 
A thought: If a parent of a sick child sent Dr. Crawley an angry letter, I don't think she would be able to use it, not without revealing that the people that are angry at her are her own patients and their families. I think she is building her narrative on the blueprint set out by Simon Wessely - that is "my own patients love me, it is these other crazies out there that are harassing me."
 
Woolie said:
A thought: If a parent of a sick child sent Dr. Crawley an angry letter, I don't think she would be able to use it, not without revealing that the people that are angry at her are her own patients and their families.
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I also think if a parent of a sick child sent Dr. Crawley an angry letter, it would probably discuss what the parent was angry about. It might even be very articulate. The fact that EC is likely to have received complaints from parents of sick children goes nowhere near establishing that she has received anything like the fictional letters from the Sunday Times. If she says she has, she can show us a real one. Until then I don't believe her.
 
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