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The Mirror: Veterans with debilitating Gulf War Syndrome may have passed it on to children

Discussion in ''Conditions related to ME/CFS' news and research' started by Andy, Jan 28, 2019.

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  1. Andy

    Andy Committee Member

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    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/veterans-debilitating-gulf-war-syndrome-13911872
     
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    The journalist who wrote the piece is Grace Macaskill who's on twitter
    https://twitter.com/user/status/1089495088189841408


    maybe someone could tweet her a link to Nancy Klimas GWI and ME/CFS research and mention that both groups have SW to thank for lack of biomedical research? (by declaring both to be psychosomatic)

    Wessely called time on research into it:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12195884
     
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    Sounds eerily familiar. No you dont know Simon because you’re a psychiatrist and epidemiologist, but an immunologist or other ologist like klimas might. I’m guessIng the help includes some type of CBT because it works so well in CFS.,
     
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    From https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12195884:
    Hopefully that kind of money would be given to people who would actually do something about rather than finding creative ways to blame them for it.

    No doubt "trying to help those who are ill" would involve the kind of world-class research you can only get by asking people to hold a shopping bag and talking how they feel about it.

    Well, OK then, why bother doing any research at all? Just ask Simon. Let's make all medicine "Simon says", he knows it all.
     
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    Wessely's argument is that it doesn't exist as distinct illness because symptoms from all categories were increased in sufferers.

    To him that is sufficient evidence to declare it as problem of abnormal perception of symptoms. I don't believe it has ever been shown that such an illness of abnormal perception actually exists.

    The real motive here is probably to save money by labeling it a psychological disorder, as usual.
     
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    Ah but Simon makes your problems disappear...
     
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    Shouldn't an epidemiologist be smarter than that? Maybe the psychiatrist part is overriding the epidemiologist part.
     
    Little Bluestem, Feb 1, 2019
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