Symptoms of Covid-19

There seems to be a rash of articles referring to "cognitive impairment" and saying it has never been researched. I have a vague recollection that in the early days of the Tahoe research Cheney sent a number of his patients to a psychologist in either LA or San Francisco. I think she may have been called Bastian. She reported specific cognitive deficits. The NIH and CDC were not interested.

The reference was in Oslers Web. I will try and find it. It may take some time.
 
chrisb said:
There seems to be a rash of articles referring to "cognitive impairment" and saying it has never been researched. I have a vague recollection that in the early days of the Tahoe research Cheney sent a number of his patients to a psychologist in either LA or San Francisco. I think she may have been called Bastian. She reported specific cognitive deficits. The NIH and CDC were not interested.

The reference was in Oslers Web. I will try and find it. It may take some time.
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Sheila Bastien

https://www.semanticscholar.org/pap...enry/e50fe3e2ab092ebeb05afb3e3d6955b9d069a0cb
 
Interesting. Sounds familiar:

"Dr. Robert Yolken, a neurovirology expert at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine in Baltimore, said that although people might recover physically from Covid-19, in some cases their immune systems, might be unable to shut down or might remain engaged because of “delayed clearance of a small amount of virus.”

Persistent immune activation is also a leading explanation for brain fog and memory problems bedeviling many Covid survivors, and Emily Severance, a schizophrenia expert at Johns Hopkins, said post-Covid cognitive and psychiatric effects might result from “something similar happening in the brain.”"
 
Don't we already have a working design for wheels?

I am under the impression that all of this has been proposed, by several people/groups, as explanations for some symptoms of ME - but that such explanations have been rejected by 'medicine' as fanciful, unevidenced, rubbish - or 'polite' terms that mean the same thing.

So if it's not seen as a valid explanation for the same symptoms in another condition then why propose it for long covid?

Just as excuse to getting funding/wages for another couple of years of 'research', or as an acceptance that 'medicine' was potentially 'wrong' something that, according to 'medicine', cannot happen.
 
Wonko said:
Don't we already have a working design for wheels?

I am under the impression that all of this has been proposed, by several people/groups, as explanations for some symptoms of ME - but that such explanations have been rejected by 'medicine' as fanciful, unevidenced, rubbish - or 'polite' terms that mean the same thing.

So if it's not seen as a valid explanation for the same symptoms in another condition then why propose it for long covid?

Just as excuse to getting funding/wages for another couple of years of 'research', or as an acceptance that 'medicine' was potentially 'wrong' something that, according to 'medicine', cannot happen.
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Turns out this thing where professionals can choose to believe or disbelieve certain facts over others is not exactly ideal.

Who knew? Other than anyone who knows anything about science, obviously.

Keep in mind that all this crap about magical psychology predates not only the germ theory of disease but modern medicine, by decades. Another thing that is not exactly ideal: retaining long-debunked myths and fairy tales and using them in common practice.

It's really fortunate that no other field of expertise does that because we'd probably have stuck with DC power transmission or something this absurd. Just get used to regular structure fires, they'd say, it's a normal part of life, they'd say. Or something. It's frankly hard to imagine comparable failure in other fields, they simply cannot happen anymore.
 
Wits_End said:
More possible symptoms of you-know-what:

Covid toe, rashes and covid tongue: Lesser-known symptoms that could be linked to coronavirus

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/med...oronavirus/ar-BB16LYbY?ocid=ASUDHP&li=AAnZ9Ug
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I wonder how many of these other symptoms could be due to other opportunistic infections?

I've had unusual oral and ear symptoms for months since a mild respiratory infection in March last year, but it's unlikely I had COVID since it had minimal community circulation over here.
 
I've had similar white coating on tongue for about 3 years. No idea what it is. Assumed it was fungal and tried a few treatments but nothing helps. Haven't seen a physician since so that's another thing on the back burner but it seems pretty common in LC.

And the toes, but far less severe than some of the pictures I have seen, but I assume those would be the worst cases.

So many small things that most of us never mention could finally see enough interest to figure them out. Would be great. I don't think that this explains all MUS but I would be genuinely surprised if it does not explain 80-90% at least. Just the immune system doing its thing, I guess.
 
BBC article:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55733527

Worth buying a pulse oximeter and monitoring your oxygen levels.

Covid: How a £20 gadget could save lives

One of the mysteries of Covid-19 is why oxygen levels in the blood can drop to dangerously low levels without the patient noticing.

It is known as "silent hypoxia".

As a result, patients have been arriving in hospital in far worse health than they realised and, in some cases, too late to treat effectively.

But a potentially life-saving solution, in the form of a pulse oximeter, allows patients to monitor their oxygen levels at home, and costs about £20.

They are being rolled out for high-risk Covid patients in the UK, and the doctor leading the scheme thinks everyone should consider buying one.

Oxygen levels
A normal oxygen level in the blood is between 95% and 100%.
[...]
If oxygen levels drop to 93% or 94%, then people speak to their GP or call 111. If they go below 92%, people should go to A&E or call 999 for an ambulance.

Studies, which have not been reviewed by other scientists, have shown even small drops below 95% are linked to an increased risk of dying.
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You beat me to it - I only saw this on the news this evening. If they're that cheap, might it be a good idea for pwME to get one (I think they were being distributed free in the Dorset area?) to check what their blood oxygen level actually is, given that it's been hypothesised that the condition might be caused by a low oxygen level? Only, possibly don't panic about going to A&E if your level is lower than "usual" in humans?
 
Be aware that they eat batteries, one every few months even if not used - so before putting away in a draw take the battery out.

They could, at least a couple of days ago, be had for a fiver for a cheap one (direct from China - where they are seemingly all made these days).

After the news announced that everyone should have one, they all seem to have doubled in price, at least, for some reason.
 
Trish said:
BBC article:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55733527

Worth buying a pulse oximeter and monitoring your oxygen levels.
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I borrowed one for a while.

With warm hands - a rare event - my oxygen levels were always 98-100%.

With cold hands - most of the time - they were below 93% or thereabouts, I don't know how low exactly because that's when the alarm buzzer went off at intolerable volume and I had to switch the device off.

I had a suspicion that might happen which is why I borrowed rather than bought. Some years ago after an operation the nurses ended up disconnecting the monitor because it went off all the time and they decided it was due to my cold hands, not to anything dangerous.
 
I have a pulse oximeter I have had for ages. I find it easy to use and it seems to give consistent readings, in my case varying between 95 and 99. I have to use it on my thumb, I assume because my fingers are too small to give a reading. If it shows 95 or 96 I find taking a few deep breaths quickly raises it to 98 to 99.

I think it's a good idea to buy one and get used to using it so you know whether it's working reliably, to have in case you get Covid. It's scary how quickly people with Covid's oxygen levels can drop dangerously low without them realising.
 
Trish said:
I have a pulse oximeter I have had for ages. I find it easy to use and it seems to give consistent readings, in my case varying between 95 and 99. I have to use it on my thumb, I assume because my fingers are too small to give a reading. If it shows 95 or 96 I find taking a few deep breaths quickly raises it to 98 to 99.

I think it's a good idea to buy one and get used to using it so you know whether it's working reliably, to have in case you get Covid. It's scary how quickly people with Covid's oxygen levels can drop dangerously low without them realising.
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Mine arrived today...was easy to use out of the packet , although reading seemed to vary quite a bit ...it seemed to vary a lot from 93 to 97 ..spent more time at 94 than anything else ...reading the leaflet it says that if you have low haemoglobin pulse OI meters not so good ..sigh my haemoglobin is below reference due to low RBC’s (haematocrit consistently always below reference). So I guess it’s not going to be something that works for me. Be good for Mrs and master sloth though.
 
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