Petition: 2025 Denmark: Protection of woman with very severe ME/CFS, Line

Art Vandelay

Art Vandelay

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Another person with severe ME/CFS is being threatened with forced psychiatric hospitalisation in Denmark.

Line (@nebulow), a person with very severe ME in Denmark, is being threatened with psychiatric incarceration ‼️

Line has been in a care facility Denmark similar to a nursing home for the last 10 months. Line has very severe ME, dysautonomia, CCI and more and is completely reliant on care and liquid food to stay alive. She’s had some very slow improvement due to appropriate care and medications.

However a psychiatric team have now become involved. They believe her symptoms, all of which are common with very severe ME, are due to psychosis. They have forced her onto anti-psychotic medication, and have given her 2-3 weeks to get out of bed and start eating solids, otherwise she may be forcibly hospitalized in a psychiatric facility.
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Art Vandelay said:
Another person with severe ME/CFS is being threatened with forced psychiatric hospitalisation in Denmark.



There is a petition here.
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They believe her symptoms, all of which are common with very severe ME, are due to psychosis
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So, is psychosis as medically described even a real thing? Rather than likely many things they can't tell apart? If they can't even tell the difference, how often do they get it wrong? Half the time? More?

It's looking more and more like there isn't much that is actually valid in health care that isn't verifiable using technology. For all the criticism of LLMs making a lot of stuff up, this is simply normal human behavior. Humans make stuff up all the damn time, even when lives are at stake.
 
Psychiatrists in Denmark STILL plan to forcibly detain a severe ME/CFS patient

Psychiatrists in Denmark are still threatening to forcibly detain a severe myalgic encephalomyelitis (ME/CFS) patient in a psychiatric hospital. They have dismissed the calls and vital severe ME information that more than 4,000 people in the ME and long Covid community, including renowned international patient organisations, presented to them as from “uncredible sources”. Now, 26-year-old Line Langager Anderson says that her psychiatrists are even using it against her, and that it has only furthered:

their belief that I am delusional.​
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Her: You’re hurting me!
Them: No, I’m not.
Us: You’re hurting her!
Them: No, you’re delusional.

How confident do you have to be in your own opinion to brush off claims of damage at your hands?

This is the kind of behaviour that makes me wish for a lower threshold for personal legal liability for HC-workers - including prison. That would be a mess in itself, but it’s the only thing that might make these people think twice. The only care about themselves.
 
Utsikt said:
Her: You’re hurting me!
Them: No, I’m not.
Us: You’re hurting her!
Them: No, you’re delusional.

How confident do you have to be in your own opinion to brush off claims of damage at your hands?

This is the kind of behaviour that makes me wish for a lower threshold for personal legal liability for HC-workers - including prison. That would be a mess in itself, but it’s the only thing that might make these people think twice. The only care about themselves.
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Indeed in any context there is an issue when liability isn’t going to be personal but ‘following orders’ is justification even if everyone knows you gave the orders. The other one is people being allowed to pretend they didn’t know even when it was their job to know and what they are claiming is infeasible - like all their staff went renegade on them and they just didnt notice.

people don’t and often can’t say no until that one is changed to make individuals liable for their part , and their bosses personally liable for allowing it and so on.
 
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