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Perturbation of effector and regulatory T cell subsets in Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS) (2019) Karhan, Unutmaz et al

Discussion in 'ME/CFS research' started by Hoopoe, Dec 20, 2019.

  1. mariovitali

    mariovitali Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Done and waiting for an answer :)
     
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    mariovitali Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    OK Derya Unutmaz answered, he is checking it and will get back. He also said about posting soon a revised version of the paper. This table (Supplemental table 2 which i could not find in the paper) is very important i think, because it shows the features used for the machine learning algorithm used to classify between ME patients and controls.
     
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  4. butter.

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    Is low cd8, cd8 lymphopenia a frequent finding in me/cfs?
     
  5. Jonathan Edwards

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    A number of studies have found no difference between ME/CFS and controls for basic T cell subsets like CD8.
     
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  6. butter.

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    So if a patient would have chronically low cd8 count (for years), what would you think about that?
     
  7. Jonathan Edwards

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    Not very much. Counts of cells in blood vary a lot.
     
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  8. Mij

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    Hi butter, we have a few threads on this subject. It seems some pwME CD8 counts are high, while others are low. It varies. Mine are below normal range.
     
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  9. butter.

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    same here! any differences in severity?
     
  10. Mij

    Mij Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Not really, but I do experience more viral re-activations.

    I have a friend with lower numbers than mine but never feels 'viral', she has a lot of allergies.
     
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    MAIT cell activation and dynamics associated with COVID-19 disease severity

    https://immunology.sciencemag.org/content/5/51/eabe1670.full

     

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