Paul Garner on Long Covid and ME/CFS - BMJ articles and other media.

[Sean]

The sheer gall of people like this lecturing the world about the importance of standards for evidence and ethics.

Incidentally, Garner bears more than a passing resemblance to one of my favourite comedians, Milton Jones.

 

[Esther12]

The George Davey Smith jovial bit from 14:20 about a 'threatening phone call' from Oxford reminded me of the way actions from powerful institutions can be viewed.

 

[Caroline Struthers]

For those that can take an overload of irony - apologies if someone else has already posted this.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/jrsm.1599

 

[Trish]

For those that can take an overload of irony - apologies if someone else has already posted this.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/jrsm.1599

I've started a thread on this paper in case anyone wants to discuss it:
Identifying and managing problematic trials: A research integrity assessment tool for randomized controlled trials in evidence synthesis, 2022, Weibel

 

[cassava7]

Tweet from Sense about Science: “We were delighted to meet and hear from Paul Garner last week, who discussed his recovery from long Covid and the importance for scientists to be able to share their research without any fear or intimidation. @CochraneUK #MaddoxPrize”

 

[Mij]

Sense about Science: Campaigning charity challenging misrepresentation of science and evidence in public life

 

[Trish]

Surely they can't be considering Garner for the Maddox prize.

 

[petrichor]

Surely they can't be considering Garner for the Maddox prize.

In some previous instances when they've used the #maddoxprize tag it's been in various instances of scientists facing hostility, which is the topic of the prize, so not necessarily

 

[Andy]

Surely they can't be considering Garner for the Maddox prize.

I'm sure they won't be.....

Esther Crawley gets 'commendation' at 2017 Maddox Prize awards.

 

[Trish]

I'm sure they won't be.....

Esther Crawley gets 'commendation' at 2017 Maddox Prize awards.

And Wessely got the prize in 2012. It's a sick joke.

 

[JemPD]

Oh i bet they will give it to him... after all he has faced such hostility for simply sharing his story of recovery. But he kept telling his truth in the face of militant activists. He will get it for sure, or at the very least an 'honourable mention'.

 

[Arnie Pye]

But he kept telling his truth in the face of militant activists.

[saracasm on] And guns were involved apparently - G had to look down the barrel of one to cure himself. So brave! [sarcasm off]

 

[Wonko]

Which end of the barrel is he claiming to have looked down tho.

Barrels go 2 ways.

 

[Andy]

Who has been rattling his cage?

"NICE guidance on ME/CFS is the most extraordinary corruption of the evidence-based guidelines process I have ever seen. See this article in the Lancet"

https://twitter.com/PaulGarnerWoof/status/1579099446448885760

 

[Trish]

I couldn't let this go.

 

[Trish]

Excellent reply from @Adam pwme

 

[cassava7]

Very revealing to see Alastair Miller retweet and like Garner’s tweet on the NICE guideline.

 

[Sly Saint]

total recovery in less than 4 weeks. says no LP(?)

 

[Peter T]

total recovery in less than 4 weeks. says no LP(?)

Interesting that Paul Garner has now edited out of his story ‘that phone call to Norway’ that is understood to have been to an LP practitioner.

It is worth noting that his personal testimony of positive thinking as a cure for Long Covid has developed over time, for example his initial public appeal for help from the ME community is subsequently edited out of his latter attack on us as a source of uninvited harassment, rather weakens it as a source of objective un ‘cherry picked’ evidence.

 

[Trish]

Tweet from Sense about Science: “We were delighted to meet and hear from Paul Garner last week, who discussed his recovery from long Covid and the importance for scientists to be able to share their research without any fear or intimidation. @CochraneUK #MaddoxPrize”

Who has been rattling his cage?

"NICE guidance on ME/CFS is the most extraordinary corruption of the evidence-based guidelines process I have ever seen. See this article in the Lancet"
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https://twitter.com/PaulGarnerWoof/status/1579099446448885760

Call me cynical, but we've seen this sort of behaviour before from M Sharpe who did his best on Twitter to provoke 'attacks' so they could be used by a journalist in an article claiming he'd suffered harassment.

I don't think Garner's tweets today are just an innocent coincidence with him meeting the organisation that has awarded the Maddox prize to Wessely in the past.