Paul Garner on Long Covid and ME/CFS - BMJ articles and other media.

Hutan said:
Of course we should be as polite as we can be, and of course we should acknowledge when we or others in our community have got something wrong. Of course we should tailor our language to its purpose. But, when even reasonable actions can be painted by those who oppose us as unacceptable, I don't think we should spend too much time in hand-wringing, worried about what others will think of us.
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I cannot claim to know any detail, but I wonder if women would have the vote in the UK even now if they had always been ever so polite?

Edit: Just spotted your previous post @Hutan. But leaving this post here so it can be sorted appropriately, but hopefully saved somewhere.
 
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SNT Gatchaman said:
Off-topic, but have to respond: "No! :("
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I was well enough to go to Sainsbury's today so I expect to survive.
(For those not in the UK the cryptic reference to Sainsbury's is an increasingly downmarket supermarket store that when I was a lad had sawdust on the floor and separate counters for eggs and bacon when we still had ration books after the war.);)
 
It's certainly true of the 2007 guidelines. That was an ideologically-driven mess. Very corrupt and a good thing it got somewhat corrected.

The increased activity on social media by long haulers is really not giving him a good day. What a tool. I assume this will only increase his victimhood martyrdom. Amazing textbook example of ideological bubbles creating biased mutual admiration societies.

A true representative of the level of scientific skills we have come to love and admire from Cochrane. Garner is a true Cochranite. At some point I expect him to be given an award or something. Such courage, bullying sick people like that. Not everyone can do that, as in most people would be too disgusted with themselves to do do it, but Paul is really nailing it.
 
InitialConditions said:


Will leave this here and go for my tea, as I'm in a horrendous mood and might say something I regret.
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I cannot bear to read whatever he writes :banghead:

I just remember all the advice and support he was given by PwME on twitter when he first caught Covid

As a person who has had both a (7 month housebound) post viral experience, ‘recovered’ to 90-95%, and, 12 years later, sepsis onset M.E., I do hope he continues to pace because otherwise a future infection may turn round and ‘bite him on the bum’
(Hope that is ok to say, Mods! This was, after all, my own n=1 experience!)
 
Andy said:
Paul Garner expressing his support for a study that 'found' "Changing beliefs cured chronic backpain" and claiming that "the belief that #longcovid fatigue is biomedical reinforces the symptoms"
See Effect of Pain Reprocessing Therapy vs Placebo and Usual Care for Patients With Chronic Back Pain an RCT, 2021, Asher, Gordon et al
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He is 'wiggling' having been 'Waddelled'...

'The results of ‘Waddell’s tests’ in a medical report are always of interest to defendant personal injury lawyers. They hope that the tests will show the claimant to be a malingerer who is exaggerating their claim in the hope of a larger financial settlement.
However, the outcome of these tests is often misunderstood and the presence of abnormal illness behaviour or non-organic pain does not necessarily mean that the claimant is exaggerating....'

PG- the claimant is exaggerating-? guilty as charged ...?

Well, who'd have though this possible?
 
As a hypothetical question. Would someone brainwashed by LP who is also a senior physician be told as part of their 'cure' of stopping 'doing long covid' be told that they need to take every opportunity to reinforce their 'recovery' by speaking up publicly in support of mind over body 'cures'?
 
Suffolkres said:
'The results of ‘Waddell’s tests’ in a medical report are always of interest to defendant personal injury lawyers. They hope that the tests will show the claimant to be a malingerer who is exaggerating their claim in the hope of a larger financial settlement.
However, the outcome of these tests is often misunderstood and the presence of abnormal illness behaviour or non-organic pain does not necessarily mean that the claimant is exaggerating....'
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what are 'waddells tests'?
Sorry if i missed something but I'm confused, Where's that quote from @Suffolkres ?
 
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