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Onset patterns of chronic fatigue syndrome and myalgic encephalomyelitis (2018) Evans & Jason

Discussion in 'ME/CFS research' started by Esther12, Feb 25, 2018.

  1. Hip

    Hip Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    The common denominator of ME/CFS and T1D is coxsackievirus B4, a virus linked to both diseases. This was the virus that appeared to cause my ME/CFS, and one young nephew who caught my virus from me later developed T1D.
     
  2. Snow Leopard

    Snow Leopard Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    My sister has adult onset T1D hmm!?!

    (confirmation bias for the win!)
     
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  3. ukxmrv

    ukxmrv Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Not being able to name the date of a sudden onset isn't the same as there not being a sudden onset. Mine was sudden but I have no diary back to that point or any medical records with the date written down. I difficulty even remember the year.

    It's a bit like being asked for an alibi in court years after an event that one didn't realise was going to be important.
     
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    Mij Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I feel I would have recovered from the viral infection if I didn't get vaccinated soon after.

    Sudden viral vertigo attack--->feeling ok but grinding nausea in my gut and mild sore throat, was still able to work and go to school.
    One month later----> Tetanus and Rubella shot on same day, feeling ok but now experiencing mild sore throat and ear, gut nausea/grinding.
    One month later---> first Hep B shot, feeling like my head is in a fish bowl and a little more 'unwell' but still able to function but not exercise.
    One month after that ---> second Hep B shot, losing stamina in my legs, nausea/sick/grinding gut, very jittery, mild sore throat/ear and sudden vertigo attack comes back. Extremely elevated anti-thyroid antibodies.
     
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  5. Hip

    Hip Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Yes, these anedotal stories don't say much in statistical terms, but it again might suggest that your own ME/CFS involves CVB4.

    Type 1 diabetes is linked to CVB1, CVB4 and EV4 (in the studies I have seen).

    Dr Chia finds, in decreasing order of prevalence, the following enteroviruses in ME/CFS patients: CVB3, CVB4, CVB2, EV6, EV7, EV9, EV11.

    So that's why it seems that CVB4 is the common denominator.
     
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