3/9/23, Conversations on Health Care: “
Long COVID: Skeptics Are Wrong, Researchers Say”
"It's crucial to understand that there are people with Long COVID who are bedridden right now, who are not able to leave their homes…"
Iwasaki: "What we're seeing, there are several key features that distinguished people with Long COVID such as elevated levels of exhausted T cells. These exhausted T cells are only found in people who are fighting chronic infections or cancer T cells that keep seeing the same antigen over and over, that's where we see these types of cells." We also see that there's evidence for elevated Epstein-Barr Virus reactivation in people with Long COVID. Another feature that's very uniformly different between Long COVID and control groups is the lower levels of Cortisol, Plasma Cortisol, we're seeing in Long COVID patients and because Cortisol is such an important hormone that regulates so many different aspects of our physiology, we can basically assign a lot of the symptoms that they're getting with this low levels of Cortisol."
Margaret Flinter: "We hate to think you have to get out and do fundraising for something that is so desperately needed. I did note a few moments ago, you referenced Epstein-Barr Virus, and we have been reading about how Long COVID research might help us understand how better to treat multiple sclerosis or chronic fatigue syndrome, and we're very intrigued with that"
Iwasaki: "COVID is just one of the many pathogens that can cause this mysterious post acute syndromes. Long COVID is the latest to join that list, but there are a handful of viruses and bacteria and parasites that can similarly they cause long term symptoms and many of these people develop these ME/CFS syndrome. We're hoping that by studying Long COVID and then we'll be recruiting people with ME/CFS into future studies with Dr. David Putrino’s group to be able to understand the parallel between these diseases, and whether one research can inform the other because the underlying pathogenesis may be shared, but that's something that we have to do more research on."
Lowenstein: "..a hallmark symptom of Long COVID tends to be something we call post-exertional symptom exacerbation the worsening of symptoms following a period of physical, mental or emotional exertion."
"Unfortunately, it's not something that's just going to go away, right. We'd like to compare COVID and the flu. ME/CFS may be related to Long COVID. There are a lot of people who have been disabled by the flu as well, right. There are other post viral illnesses. Long COVID is not the first of its kind. There are ways we can mitigate these sorts of problems in the future, and there are ways we can mitigate in the present, and I think talking about it openly is the first step to getting there."
"ME/CFS which is the abbreviated term for Myalgic Encephalomyelitis, sometimes called Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. It's another often infection associated complex chronic illness that shares many similarities with Long COVID. In fact, a large percentage of people living with Long COVID have qualified for the diagnosis ME/CFS."