News from Scandinavia

[The ME Inquiry Report]

It seems that the ME and CFS-clinic in Gothenburg thinks it has found a loophole in the Canadian criteria that allows them to avoid establishing the diagnosis of ME in their patients.

New thread >> Sweden: Have the ME and CFS clinic in Gothenburg found a loophole to avoid the diagnosis ME?

 

[Utsikt]

Reme, Landmark, Garner and Van der Bergh as representatives of OCFN with an opinion piece about how predictive models and expectations cause LC and that this should be taught in medical schools.

Sitter long covid «bare i hodet»?

KRONIKK: Kunnskap om hvordan symptomer oppstår og vedvarer, bør få mer plass i medisinstudiet, ifølge innsenderne.

www.forskersonen.no

 

[Snow Leopard]

Reme, Landmark, Garner and Van der Bergh as representatives of OCFN with an opinion piece about how predictive models and expectations cause LC and that this should be taught in medical schools.

Sitter long covid «bare i hodet»?

KRONIKK: Kunnskap om hvordan symptomer oppstår og vedvarer, bør få mer plass i medisinstudiet, ifølge innsenderne.

www.forskersonen.no

Just wow, It's easily falsifiable too as people with LC have very diverse expectations and many of them had never even heard of ME/CFS when they first got COVID. Why do they (Garner et al.) not notice that it is them who keep projecting expectations and experiences onto others?

 

[Kalliope]

Reme, Landmark, Garner and Van der Bergh as representatives of OCFN with an opinion piece about how predictive models and expectations cause LC and that this should be taught in medical schools.

Sitter long covid «bare i hodet»?

KRONIKK: Kunnskap om hvordan symptomer oppstår og vedvarer, bør få mer plass i medisinstudiet, ifølge innsenderne.

www.forskersonen.no

A great reply today from ME patient, psychologist and author Frøydis Lilledalen.

Forventninger kurerer ikke long covid

google translation Expectations do not cure long covid

Quote:
We need fewer undocumented hypotheses, less reference to VR glasses, and more knowledge updates in the face of increasing numbers of ME and long-term COVID patients. We have tried to psychologist diseases following infections, but it has neither increased recovery nor reduced incidence.

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[rvallee]

Just wow, It's easily falsifiable too as people with LC have very diverse expectations and many of them had never even heard of ME/CFS when they first got COVID. Why do they (Garner et al.) not notice that it is them who keep projecting expectations and experiences onto others?

It's also obviously a fake model they don't even actually care about, just a pseudoscientific reframing of the old fear avoidance.

These quacks have spent decades lying to themselves, and the world, that all we need is an explanation. Not a real one, we just need to have an explanation, it doesn't even have to be plausible. Not because we need an explanation, but because they do. The explanation is just a cheap excuse for doing the same things for the same reasons expecting the same outcomes, which is to perpetuate the lie that they can produce positive outcomes. Something they never have.

Because they don't need to. They got an explanation. And another. And a pocketful of more of them. They throw them around like it's pocket sand, blinding anyone who dares look into their empty pockets.

 

[rvallee]

We have tried to psychologist diseases following infections, but it has neither increased recovery nor reduced incidence.

For decades. Against explicit rejection of consent and undeniable failure. Against decades of legitimate complaints and protests. Still forcing it down our throats and lying about it all.

It just doesn't have the same weight when it's a simple "we tried that already". It hasn't been just tried, it has been tried to excess, for decades, many times around. That's why they never do anything different, are still trying the very same ideas the original quacks came up over a century ago.

 

[Sean]

A great reply today from ME patient, psychologist and author Frøydis Lilledalen.

Forventninger kurerer ikke long covid

google translation Expectations do not cure long covid

Quote:
We need fewer undocumented hypotheses, less reference to VR glasses, and more knowledge updates in the face of increasing numbers of ME and long-term COVID patients. We have tried to psychologist diseases following infections, but it has neither increased recovery nor reduced incidence.

Good article.

Not because we need an explanation, but because they do.

Exactly. None of this is for our benefit. Never has been.