@mango, thank you for informing us about what has happened in RME. I´m really sorry. I could never believe this would happen as RME for many years have had excellent annual conferences (video-recorded as many of you know) with world-renown speechers like Maureen Hansen, Jo Cambridge, Drs. Fluge and Mella, Kenny De Meirleir, David Bell, Dan Peterson, Tony Komaroff to name of few of they who lectured. How is it even possible to change the policy of RME with all these convincing representatives for the clearly biomedical stance? I suspect psychologists have altered the policy to claim the ME territory as theirs, as the psychatrists did in the UK, and as many of them tend to do in clearly physical diseases. Notable is that they mostly talk about CFS, not ME/CFS. I guess it´s a way to avoid criticizm when it comes into details about symptoms etcetera. @Clementine , I´m trying to find out what ME-clinic is considered having a (partly?) non-physical approach. I think it would be good to have it published here to make the discussion more transparent. I think it´s up to them to defend their work, and tell us that we are wrong- if we are. Thanks for your information.