Mindfulness Could Be a Powerful Painkiller

[ladycatlover]

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...1902/mindfulness-could-be-powerful-painkiller

This new analysis suggests that mindfulness is just as effective as CBT when it comes to improving physical functioning. And both mindfulness and CBT were equally good at reducing pain and its associated conditions, such as depression.

Article doesn't mention CFS so far as I can see - just pain, mainly women.

Given IAPT in UK (and MUS etc stuff) I thought this might be of interest.

 

[Wonko]

It must be good if it's as effective as something that has no evidence of being effective in any way, shape or form.

More seriously, obviously it's possible to ignore pain, up to a point, and for a limited duration. Having something physical to do whilst doing so can, in some situations, help with this. That doesn't mean the pain isn't still there and won't react badly to being ignored. It just means that other people see you doing something so assume the pain is gone or reduced.

 

[Snowdrop]

It looks to me that mindfulness is the US preference over the CBT preferred by UK. Not from reading here just a general observation from everything I've come across so far.

And the writer is referring to a Meta-analysis as his guide. So . . .

https://www.meta-analysis.com/downloads/criticismsofmeta-analysis.pdf

ETA: and just for fun: https://www.madinamerica.com/2016/0...ews-and-meta-analyses-tell-us-a-flawed-story/

This one co-authored by George Davey-Smith: http://www.clinmed.rcpjournal.org/content/1/6/478

 

[Diluted-biscuit]

I just roll my eyes now when I hear or read the word mindfulness

 

[shak8]

Mindfulness is for pain-lite.

 

[inox]

Based on this reviw:


Comparative evaluation of group-based mindfulness-based stress reduction and cognitive behavioural therapy for the treatment and management of chronic pain: A systematic review and network meta-analysis

Abstract
Question This review compares mindfulness-based stress reduction (MBSR) to cognitive-behavioural therapy (CBT) in its ability to improve physical functioning and reduce pain intensity and distress in patients with chronic pain (CP), when evaluated against control conditions.

Study selection and analysis Ovid MEDLINE, EmbaseClassic+Embase, PsycINFO and the Cochrane Library were searched to identify randomised controlled trials. The primary outcome measure was physical functioning. Secondary outcomes were pain intensity and depression symptoms. We used random and fixed effects (RE and FE) network meta-analyses (NMA) to compare MBSR, CBT and control interventions on the standardised mean difference scale.

Findings Twenty-one studies were included: 13 CBT vs control (n=1095), 7 MBSR vs control (n=545) and 1 MBSR vs CBT vs control (n=341). Of the 21 articles, 12 were determined to be of fair or good quality. Findings from RE NMA for change in physical functioning, pain intensity and depression revealed clinically important advantages relative to control for MBSR and CBT, but no evidence of an important difference between MBSR and CBT was found.

Conclusions This review suggests that MBSR offers another potentially helpful intervention for CP management. Additional research using consistent measures is required to guide decisions about providing CBT or MBSR.

https://ebmh.bmj.com/content/22/1/26

 

[Alvin]

No energy to read the article.

I'm starting to think "experts' should have to live the treatments they give...
I'm sure they mean well but not long ago i dislocated a rib somehow while sleeping, my god was that painful, i'm sure if one of these doctors experienced that and were told mindfulness is the treatment they would have learned a painful lesson very quickly.

 

[rvallee]

Any of the researchers volunteer to be subjected to pain and try to wish it off?

This basically feels like some snob billionaire scoffing at the poor and why they can't just buy more money? Live it down for a minute and you'll stop with this BS nonsense.

 

[Sean]

This new analysis suggests that mindfulness is just as effective as CBT when it comes to improving physical functioning.

Or just as ineffective.

 

[shak8]

Group mindfulness for chronic pain sufferers. How did they filter out groupthink and social pressure to respond (also to please the researcher) that their pain lessened?

 

[rvallee]

Group mindfulness for chronic pain sufferers. How did they filter out groupthink and social pressure to respond (also to please the researcher) that their pain lessened?

Double-pinky swear?

It's weird that everyone in the field is aware of the crisis of replicability but just continues on their merry way as if it didn't matter. Surely, my research is fine and dandy.