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Kynurenine pathway is altered in patients with SLE and associated with severe fatigue, 2018, Akesson et al.

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    Jaybee00 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    https://lupus.bmj.com/content/5/1/e000254


     
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    Odd error. Niacin is Vitamin B3, not B12.
     
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    The B12 = niacin error jumped out at me too. :) What was missing from the abstract is that they only measured serum and urine levels of metabolites. Since central fatigue is neurological, and many kynurenines don't cross the BBB easily, I consider their findings to be fairly useless. If they'd measured CSF levels, they might have gotten some interesting results. ME might involved fairly localized alterations in glial activity and kynurenine levels, so even a spinal tap may not reveal ME's secrets. I think some method of brain scanning for kynurenines may be needed.
     
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    Full abstract
     
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    Kynurenine again! It's interesting how there was once a theory of too much serotonin causing fatigue in ME, and now it's an imbalance in the tryptophan/kynurenine pathway (both in ME and SLE).

    It's like the elephant in a dark room. Someone's feeling the trunk and thinks it's a snake. Maybe gradually, we can work out how all the bits fit together.
     
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    after 4 years in bed 100% I wish I was the elephant ...
     
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    I'm not sure how to take that! :rofl:
     
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    I did not want to go into the snake thing ...
     
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    It's interesting they appear to suggest that increased circulating levels of kynurenine could be linked to central fatigue, when the OMF trial is exploring the possibility of supplementing it...the objectives of the two studies may be different, though (I'm way out of my depth!)
     
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