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Judy Mikovits

Discussion in 'Other health news and research' started by Hell..hath..no..fury..., Dec 10, 2018.

  1. Cheshire

    Cheshire Moderator Staff Member

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    Inappropriate for sure...
     
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  2. Arnie Pye

    Arnie Pye Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    An addition to my previous post...

    One thing that does worry me about the internet getting censored in respect of medical information is that it makes it harder for anyone and everyone to put forward a new idea.

    It's probably too late for big pharma to get rid of dissenting voices about the diet-heart hypothesis and the "cholesterol will kill you" idea. But if the information had come out ten years later they would probably be screaming for that to be removed from the internet too.

    Science should not be about achieving consensus and defending it tooth and claw from anyone dissenting. That is just a way to make sure that science stagnates.
     
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    It's a hard call to make on what level of censorship is optimal, on the one hand anti-vaxers, COVID deniers, and bleach promoters pose serious harm and potential to cause many deaths, on the other hand plenty of psych's would like this site shut down for what they believe to be harmful misinformation.
     
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  4. Hoopoe

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    If only arriving at the truth was as simple as just listening to authorities. Or as simple as listening to anti-authoritarian figures likes Mikovits.
     
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    This is why transparency and truly independent replication should be a standard of science. We shouldn't have to evaluate claims based on who said them but on the evidence and how sound it is.

    We need to change the culture of how we talk about claims rather than putting our belief in one or another claim.
     
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  7. Cheshire

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    If You Found That ‘Plandemic’ Video Convincing, Read This Too

    https://vitals.lifehacker.com/if-you-found-that-plandemic-video-convincing-read-th-1843339002

    The harm she's done to us is not over. I hope MECFS gets refered to as little as possible in this conspiracy nonsense.
     
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    Ars Technica has covered the story.

    Fired scientist back to peddling anti-vaxx COVID-19 conspiracy theories
    YouTube, Facebook crack down on two viral videos for spreading medical misinformation.
    https://arstechnica.com/science/202...dling-anti-vaxx-covid-19-conspiracy-theories/
     
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    I will say this... I think ME/CFS research and advocacy (in the US, at least) would be in a much different place today were it not for the XMRV debacle - a place a lot more like 2009 than 2020.

    To quote John F. Kennedy:
     
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    zzz Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Merged thread

    A rather damning article from Science Magazine, which is a publication of the AAAS (American Association for the Advancement of Science). The article does an excellent job of destroying any credibility that MIkovits may have left. It describes some really wild conspiracy theories by Mikovits on a variety of topics, and proceeds to debunk them one by one.

    Fact-checking Judy Mikovits, the controversial virologist attacking Anthony Fauci in a viral conspiracy video | Science | AAAS

    Edit: An article covering similar ground has also been published in the Washington Post.
     
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    Man, that is bat sh*t crazy.
     
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    In some way, seeing all the chaos, confusion, scandals and weird ideas about the coronavirus makes me feel a little better because for once it's not happening in the field of ME/CFS.

    It shows I think that this is typical for situations where there is a lot of uncertainty.
     
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    Might one dream that this Covid business might provide a Wizard of Oz moment that makes people realise we live in a world where fashion is authority and everyone has become Jeremy from Yellow Submarine.
     
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    As more details come out, this is clearly 100% political, basically a massive propaganda operation.

    Can't really speak to the details but this is all for the QAnon crowd. It will get pretty ugly, but at least the conversation will be mostly on the weird politics and are less likely to splash us too much.
     
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    Mikovits must be getting some very effective and thus not inexpensive help to boost her social media presence and produce a professional documentary. She has 126000 followers on Twitter despite joining in April of this year, no way this is legitimate.
     
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    CNN has a full segment on this. They have not named her by name, just showed pictures.
     
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