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Insights from Invasive Cardiopulmonary Exercise Testing of Patients with ME/CFS, 2021, Joseph et al
I would hope they are not talking about PACE style GET. Surely they have some knowledge of the history and its disappointing they have not thought about the implications of their terminology
Ryan31337
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Exercise is important in the context of cardiac deconditioning, so when managing POTS it can't be ignored.
But with that said, exercise is also recognised by most in this field as a key trigger for worsening of symptoms & autonomic function. Its definitely not considered a harmless thing that can just be ramped up against patient objections, as per ME/CFS GET nonsense.
POTS practical guidelines I've read recently make it clear exercise has to be highly tailored and is advised only when tolerated. The approach is to try and find ways to make the exercise tolerable, rather than assume everyone can do it if they just try hard enough. For example, medication usually comes first, which may then offer increased exercise tolerance. Basically a common-sense approach that doesn't assume anything.
Its worth remembering POTS captures a wide range of underlying causes, the treatment advice for an elite athlete experiencing post-concussive POTS will be very different to a patient that may have some type of autoimmune mediated SFN underlying POTS. But regardless, when it comes to exertion intolerance the focus is on understanding what's happening physiologically rather than any assumption that we're just exercise avoidant.
I see a couple of experts in the UK, both aware of my CFS diagnosis and they have never tried to encourage me to exercise - they actually urged caution when I quizzed them about what they'd recommend.
But with that said, exercise is also recognised by most in this field as a key trigger for worsening of symptoms & autonomic function. Its definitely not considered a harmless thing that can just be ramped up against patient objections, as per ME/CFS GET nonsense.
POTS practical guidelines I've read recently make it clear exercise has to be highly tailored and is advised only when tolerated. The approach is to try and find ways to make the exercise tolerable, rather than assume everyone can do it if they just try hard enough. For example, medication usually comes first, which may then offer increased exercise tolerance. Basically a common-sense approach that doesn't assume anything.
Its worth remembering POTS captures a wide range of underlying causes, the treatment advice for an elite athlete experiencing post-concussive POTS will be very different to a patient that may have some type of autoimmune mediated SFN underlying POTS. But regardless, when it comes to exertion intolerance the focus is on understanding what's happening physiologically rather than any assumption that we're just exercise avoidant.
I see a couple of experts in the UK, both aware of my CFS diagnosis and they have never tried to encourage me to exercise - they actually urged caution when I quizzed them about what they'd recommend.
Mithriel
Senior Member (Voting Rights)
I think people with ME develop POTS because ME causes damage to parts of the brain resulting in general dysautonomia. All ME patients have this even if it is not severe enough to be called POTS. Not being able to stand for long without feeling ill and having temperature problems is almost universal.
It is just that dysautonomia was neglected along with all the other symptoms that are not fatigue. Similarly, fibromyalgia was only said to be comorbid with ME when crippling pain lost its place as a common symptom of ME.
This is important because the treatments for the primary disease, POTS, fibromyalgia, Raynaud's or other things, may well be different or contraindicated, in ME.
It is just that dysautonomia was neglected along with all the other symptoms that are not fatigue. Similarly, fibromyalgia was only said to be comorbid with ME when crippling pain lost its place as a common symptom of ME.
This is important because the treatments for the primary disease, POTS, fibromyalgia, Raynaud's or other things, may well be different or contraindicated, in ME.