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IASP's Proposed New Definition of Pain Released for Comment

Discussion in 'General disability topics and advocacy' started by Sly Saint, Aug 29, 2019.

  1. Sly Saint

    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    International Association for the Study of Pain
    seems to be an intended explicit move to bPS model of pain.
    https://www.iasp-pain.org/PublicationsNews/NewsDetail.aspx?ItemNumber=9218&navItemNumber=643

    eta:
    the survey for submission of comments is here:
    https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/definitionofpain
     
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  2. Trish

    Trish Moderator Staff Member

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    I can't help thinking this was written by men, and possibly women who have not experienced bad period pains. They are a fact of life that most women simply accept and learn to live with, and resort to pain killers when it becomes too difficult to function without, which may or may not be sufficient to enable getting on with life pretending not to be in significant pain.

    The pain is not an 'emotional' experience. In fact I found it less 'emotional' than the black fog of depression I used to descend into for a few days premenstrually each month. Though I guess it did become 'emotional' for me on bad days if you count the anxiety that I might pass out from intense pain which I did a few times. I would compare it with the level of pain when I broke a bone.

    My ME pain feels like period pains in all my muscles. It's relentless, but it bears no relation to my emotions -neither caused by nor causing except being bloody annoying when it disrupts my concentration or sleep. I can't see how therapy would make any difference to pain apart from persuading people that it's not acceptable to admit to being in pain.

    Edited to add quotes.
     
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  3. Jonathan Edwards

    Jonathan Edwards Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    An aversive sensory and emotional experience typically caused by, or resembling that caused by, actual or potential tissue injury.

    Seems hopeless. That definition would include being frightened by seeing a bee on your arm or nausea or ringing in the ears or goodness knows what.
     
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    NelliePledge Moderator Staff Member

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    When they get the all over aching pain of a flu type virus are they having an emotional experience?
     
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    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I'm still curious how those people explain ordinary headaches.

    What's the tissue damage there? Anyone? Bueller?

    There's probably quite a lot of actual hand-waving accompanying that explanation.
     
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    TiredSam Moderator Staff Member

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    I think I can see what they are trying to do there.
     
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  7. Sly Saint

    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    @ScottTriGuy recently used a phrase that I think describes a bad migraine to perfection (certainly from my experience).

    "a 'kill me now' migraine" ;

    nothing to do with emotion, just pure desperation at wanting the pain to stop.
     
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  8. Sean

    Sean Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Enough rhetorical wiggle room there through which to sail a fleet of aircraft carriers.
     
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