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Healthy Debate: Groundbreaking research into ME/CFS a pandemic ‘silver lining’

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS news' started by ahimsa, Dec 6, 2022.

  1. ahimsa

    ahimsa Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Groundbreaking research into ME/CFS a pandemic ‘silver lining’

    https://healthydebate.ca/2022/12/topic/research-mecfs-pandemic-silver-lining/

     
  2. Trish

    Trish Moderator Staff Member

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    Nope. Bad analogy.
     
  3. ahimsa

    ahimsa Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Interesting!

    I haven't read the books so I had no idea that the dementor analogy was flawed.
     
  4. Trish

    Trish Moderator Staff Member

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    Sorry, that was an unnecessary diversion. It's actually a good article mainly set in Canada and featuring Alain Moreau's research.
     
  5. Lilas

    Lilas Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Not quite true. I was diagnosed in 2009 and my doctor (and the others later) never urged me on any treatment such as GET and/or CBT. In fact, in my Province at the time, the President of Collège des médecins du Québec (CMQ) affirmed that the latter was in full agreement with the Canadian Consensus Criteria on ME/CFS (2003). So, a Canadian article making no mention of the CCC (2003), criteria that certainly also influenced Canadian physicians, right ?
     
  6. Helene

    Helene Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Me either in, in Canada in 1989. But that was before GET I guess. Unfortunately, I took it on myself to try to exercise my way out of the early stages with now predictable results.
     
  7. DokaGirl

    DokaGirl Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Agreed. I was diagnosed in 1991. I was never told to exercise and do CBT. I never heard that this was the official guidance in Canada.

    All I was told was that I would recover.

    If I recall correctly, an official federal government booklet from about 1989, may have advised a one to three year time frame to recovery.

    As well, a couple ME specialists advised about the one to three year time frame.

    In my experience ,"CFS" was just considered post-viral fatigue or burnout, or stress at that time. That's how it was portrayed to me.

    On my own initiative I did get counseling, including CBT - but not the type used for ME.

    The counseling did not cure me.

    I also walked, but didn't continually increase this over time. I didn't ignore increases in symptoms due to exertion.

    The exercise did not cure me.

    ETA: ME started - gradual onset in 1985
     
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    Shadrach Loom Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    The dementors were inspired by Rowling’s experience of depression, so it’s particularly unhelpful to liken them to ME, even if the author hadn’t already alienated herself beyond redemption from chronic illness communities. Not a completely unnecessary diversion.
     
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  9. rvallee

    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I have used that comparison before, but it wasn't about the illness so much as about those who keep us locked in.

    I sure hope to see that groundbreaking research one day. I am following everything happening and have yet to see it, but I sure hope it starts soon. I would also like it for people to stop pretending it has, when it hasn't. We have to be realistic about where we are, no more hopium of any kind.

    Right now we are promised crumbs and have yet to see it, mostly because the Long Covid crumbs aren't much to look at, so far anyway.
     
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