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Dutch study on functional complaints (including CFS) receives €4 million in European funding

Discussion in 'Psychosomatic news - ME/CFS and Long Covid' started by Dolphin, Jul 22, 2020.

  1. Dolphin

    Dolphin Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    "Some people particularly benefit from physical therapy, while others are more in need of support from a psychologist."


    https://www.dvhn.nl/groningen/Als-de-dokter-niks-kan-vinden-25856002.html
    https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srb6c3

    Online translation:
     
  2. Dolphin

    Dolphin Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Currently 144 comments on this in Dutch on the Facebook page:
     
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  3. MEMarge

    MEMarge Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    What a waste of 4 million Euros.
     
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  4. Grigor

    Grigor Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I replied with this. Google translated.

    I'm not a fan of her work
     
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  5. Hutan

    Hutan Moderator Staff Member

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    Yes. But it's worse than that. It's like a virus, infecting more who will go on to infect others, and use up more research funding on 'clods of incomprehension'.

     
  6. Sean

    Sean Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I reject your non-explanation, and substitute my own non-explanation. :rolleyes:
     
  7. chrisb

    chrisb Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    At least if they remove the stigma it might prevent reproduction of the more florid excesses.
     
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  8. strategist

    strategist Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Shame!

    The functional disorders paradigm exists to oppress people with difficult health problems because it's designed to prevent them receiving adequate investigation and care. It's also designed to allow doctors to abandon patients in good conscience. Under the superficial appearance of care, patients are cruelly neglected.

    These so called researchers keep this system running. I wonder if they are aware what they're doing, or if they're merely mindless cogs in the system, doing what they are pressured to do by the healthcare system. The healthcare system demands the denial of some illnesses and they produce the evidence to support that.

    Deception and self-deception is the norm in the so-called research on functional disorders, because the truth must be continuously distorted to the desired results. The appearance of the whole machine of oppression having a scientific foundation is essential to its continued operation.
     
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  9. ME/CFS Skeptic

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    Just to clarify that this grant funding isn't related to the European ME/CFS petition and resolution. Rosmalen also wasn't one of the signees of our open letter. Evelien had specified that the ME research her petition advocates for should be biomedical and use strict criteria such as the Canadian and International Consensus Criteria, see: https://europeanmecoalition.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Research-Requirements.pdf

    Will try to find out more about Rosmalen's funding. Perhaps it's related to the Lifelines study she has worked on, a large Dutch cohort this followed up over time (see for example here: https://www.rug.nl/research/portal/...ia(feeac05e-d4fb-4832-9c95-5f5a41d4f383).html)
     
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  10. Mithriel

    Mithriel Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I wonder if they believe in it because a friend of a friend of their sister's hairdresser was cured?
     
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  11. Sean

    Sean Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    It's the God of the gaps for medicine.
     
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  12. ME/CFS Skeptic

    ME/CFS Skeptic Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Apparently not.

    It looks like the money is going to an Innovative Training Network (ITN) which falls under the Marie Skłodowska-Curie Actions intended to promote interdisciplinary research and international collaborations. The project is called ETUDE, Encompassing Training in fUnctional Disorders across Europe, and will be coordinated by the academic hospital in Groningen, The Netherlands.

    More info here: https://www.umcg.nl/NL/UMCG/Nieuws/...voor-vijf-grote-onderzoeksprojecten-umcg.aspx

    and here: https://ec.europa.eu/research/marie...es/itn_2020_list_of_projects_main_final_0.pdf
     
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  13. NelliePledge

    NelliePledge Moderator Staff Member

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    Good grief this functional BS has got a high R value - very concerned for post covid especially those that haven’t got a positive test on their record.
     

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