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David Tuller: Trial By Error: My Letter to Professor Hotopf About Bristol's School Absence Study

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS news' started by Kalliope, Mar 18, 2019.

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    Kalliope Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    My Letter to Professor Hotopf About Bristol's School Absence Study

    Matthew Hotopf is a professor of general medicine psychiatry at King’s College London. He served as a peer-reviewer for a study by Bristol University investigators that was published in BMJ Open in 2011. The study involved whether school absences could be used to identify cases of diagnosed CFS/ME (as the study called the illness).

    As I reported in my initial investigation of this issue, Professor Hotopf raised serious concerns in his peer-review about the study’s lack of ethical review–but the paper was published anyway. As part of my efforts to figure out what happened, I sent him the following e-mail on March 9
     
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    Oh, and this one looks interesting too... Viruses, neurosis and fatigue

    btw - didn't Matthew Hotopf get into this line of research because he was cured of CFS by MS at Warneford? Or did I dream that?
     
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    According to the Wesseley, Hotopf, Sharpe book

    "Matthew Hotopf's earliest exposure to the field was personal. As a medical student at Bart's he suffered glandular fever and was enrolled into Peter White's study. (White P, Thomas J, Grover S, Kangro H,. Clare A The existence of a fatigue syndrome after glandular fever. Psychol Med 1995 25 907-916) This experience was an insight into the rigours of well conducted research."
     
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    Hi, @dave30th. You don't appear to have stated in this latest article (which is great as far as I have read) that the REC is the Research Ethics Committee (at least I think it is, from using one of your links).
     
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    Mind you, he did at least raise valid objections, so probably best to wait for his reply before jumping to too many conclusions.
     
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    yes. but I wasn't aware of the part about being in one of Peter White's study.
     
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    Trial By Error: My Latest Letter to Bristol
    http://www.virology.ws/2019/04/09/trial-by-error-my-latest-letter-to-bristol/
     
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    Ah, good point! I should have cc'd Professor Hotopf as well on this latest letter.
     
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