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David Tuller: Trial By Error: BMJ Still "Looking Into" Lightning Process Paper

Discussion in 'Psychosomatic news - ME/CFS and Long Covid' started by Kalliope, Jun 4, 2018.

  1. Sly Saint

    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    But this is Crawley........anything is possible (it would seem).
     
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  2. Alvin

    Alvin Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Its a stall tactic, they hope that a small gesture will make the problem go away by placating critics and hopefully we forget about the issue before the end of time.
     
  3. Barry

    Barry Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    "we have received clarifications from the authors" - hmmm, that will be a first.
     
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  4. Luther Blissett

    Luther Blissett Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    http://www.ipa2016.com/plenarysessions

    28th International Conference of Pediatrics, Vancouver, Canada.

    heh.
     
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  5. Luther Blissett

    Luther Blissett Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Possible further reading

    https://repository.library.georgetown.edu/handle/10822/935804

    The COPE Report 1999 - Guidelines on Good Publication Practice
    https://repository.library.georgetown.edu/handle/10822/1039851

    Clinical Trial Registration: Looking Back and Moving Ahead
    Annals of Internal Medicine 2007 August 21; 147(4): 275-277
    https://repository.library.georgetown.edu/handle/10822/1040153

    Uniform Format for Disclosure of Competing Interests in ICMJE Journals
    Annals of Internal Medicine 2010 January 19; 152(2): 125-126

    https://repository.library.georgetown.edu/handle/10822/938732

    Global Information Flow
    Lancet 2000 September 30; 356(9236): 1129-1130

    https://publicationethics.org/resources/code-conduct

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19825973

    Uniform format for disclosure of competing interests in ICMJE journals.
    N Engl J Med. 2009 Nov 5;361(19):1896-7. doi: 10.1056/NEJMe0909052. Epub 2009 Oct 13.

    http://student.bmj.com/student/view-article.html?id=sbmj.i3614

    My biggest career failure

    https://www.symptoma.com/en/research/profile/f_godlee

    Co-Author network - Richard Horton #22 Co-publications

     
  6. TiredSam

    TiredSam Committee Member

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    Well thank goodness the job landed in the safe hands of Richard Horton then, otherwise who knows how the Lancet might have disgraced itself.
     
  7. Alvin

    Alvin Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    A thought experiment, would they publish a paper that says you can treat Cancer or Alzheimers with LP?
    Why or why not?
     
  8. NelliePledge

    NelliePledge Moderator Staff Member

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    the CBT for over 65s project Sharpe is doing to keep them out of hospital might as well be called CBT for Alzheimers its only a couple of steps from that to LP isnt it. And thats how it all happens - incrementally - CBT ifying of everything is opening the door to potential LP ifying of everything
     
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  9. Alvin

    Alvin Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Got a link that he is treating Alzheimers with CBT?
    If he is claiming its a cure i would call attention to it, divide and conquer.
     
  10. NelliePledge

    NelliePledge Moderator Staff Member

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  11. Alvin

    Alvin Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Sounds somewhat ok on the surface. But whats beneath and the actual goings on are far more important.

    Perhaps someone should point out very publicly that he has a history of doctoring results so he can't be trusted to be honest
    Maybe the funders of the study should be made aware of this and if he lies again it may cost more money then it saves...?
     
  12. NelliePledge

    NelliePledge Moderator Staff Member

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    sorry thought I had posted link to the thread its being discussed on https://www.s4me.info/threads/the-home-study-michael-sharpe-s-cbt-for-the-elderly.2499/#post-45733
     
  13. rvallee

    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    At this point I'm not sure of the answer. UK medicine is entering a bizarre reversal into pseudoscience for the sake of cutting costs everywhere.
     
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  14. Alvin

    Alvin Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I noticed but we can use that against them and for science, lies increase costs

    I do suspect they would be more careful when dealing with mainstream diseases because they can get away more easily with kicking a maligned disease rather then a well known one. If they tried to claim they could cure heart disease with CBT and fabricated the evidence they would lose credibility and their medical licenses very quickly
    If they claim instead that they can treat the depression "caused" by heart disease, a wishy washy way of skirting the lies.
     
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