Covid-19 vaccines and vaccinations

lunarainbows said:
Still haven’t had the vaccine, tried to contact GP via dr iq online and been told “Nurse will contact you beforehand” when I tried to get an exact date and time, and then when I asked again “very soon”. So I guess it’s still not happening. I’ll get my mum to make a complaint to the CCG today.
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According to this document, they should have vaccinated all housebound patients in groups 1-6 by 14th March:

https://www.england.nhs.uk/coronavi...-steps-and-plans-for-weeks-of-8-and-15-march/
 
Wits_End said:
A suggestion that after-effects are more common (or at least are logged more frequently) after the second dose:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/me...of-vaccine/ar-BB1ef2gW?ocid=ASUDHP&li=AAnZ9Ug

Does this imply that I should have logged mine after my first dose?
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The Zoe study on covid vaccines and the immune system which I registered with (but have failed to log my reactions consistently- I do have my own notes but hadn't transferred them) has published data suggesting that side effects are more severe after first Oxford vaccine dose compared to Pfizer, but the reverse for the second dose. Lecture is interesting.

 
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Binkie4 said:
Good luck with the side effects, if any, @arewenearlythereyet . The data is showing reduced side effects after second jab for oxford which is good. We had Oxford and Mr B had no side effects for his first dose - I should correct myself- he had a sore arm for 10 minutes. I was not so lucky.
Webinar/ Q and A is interesting.
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well so far so good...I’ll see how things go tomorrow. While queueing I was holding my NHS number and trying to remember to get them to put it in the opposite arm to the one I sleep on. I can’t remember which arm they did put it in now and no sign of any mark at the injection site so that’s a good sign.

Just finished the webinar which I thought was fairly honest about what they didn’t know. I liked the Ellie professor who seemed to be quite sensible. They even recognised that having ME meant you couldn’t exercise, even if they didn’t realise that diet is also tricky for some. This was surprising that they gave it air time. I thought the stuff about gut biome, plant-based food and fermented foods was a bit over the top from someone talking about what the science is telling us ...clearly a hobby horse of professor Tim which kind of ruined his credibility for me at the end given how little meaningful science there is on the subject. I think he should stick to a subject field he is expert in :whistle:.
 
Trish said:
Ha, yes, my poor old immune system couldn't muster much of a reaction. I hope the vaccine still works.
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Just as long as there are no parties at your house now Trish. ....( attempt at humour)


This seems to be a big problem, people equating vaccination with immunity.
Bits popping up on media and news re
Parties for the inoculated.

A caller to LBC yesterday painted a vi I'd pocture of loud noise and disco lights at his neighbours where he reckoned around a dozen were partying. Weird kind of role reversal!

ETA last paragraph and humour eference)
ETA the neighbours were in their 80s !
 
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Source: UK House of Commons
Date: March 5, 2021
URL:
https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-questions/detail/2021-02-25/159021
Ref: http://www.me-net.combidom.com/meweb/web1.4.htm#westminster


[Written Answers]

Coronavirus: Vaccination
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Alex Sobel

To ask the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care, what
assessment his Department has made of the potential merits of
prioritising people with myalgic encephalomyelitis for covid-19
vaccinations.


Nadhim Zahawi

The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation has not identified
any robust data to indicate that, as a group, persons with myalgic
encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome are at higher risk from
COVID-19, therefore those under 50 years old with this condition are not
prioritised for phase one of the programme.
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Source: UK House of Commons
Date: March 5, 2021
URL:
https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-questions/detail/2021-02-22/156362
Ref: http://www.me-net.combidom.com/meweb/web1.4.htm#westminster


[Written Answers]

Coronavirus: Vaccination
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Paul Blomfield

To ask the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care, what
assessment he has made of the potential merits of prioritising people
with ME and chronic fatigue syndrome for covid-19 vaccination.


Nadhim Zahawi

The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) has not
identified any robust data to indicate that, as a group, persons with
myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome are at higher risk of
mortality from COVID-19 and therefore are not included as a group for
prioritisation for vaccination in the vaccine programme.

Prioritisation for phase two has not yet been decided, but interim
advice has been published by the JVCI recommending an age-based approach
which the Government has accepted in principle. Phase two of the
COVID-19 vaccine programme will cover all adults under 50 not already
included in Phase one.
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Here in Quebec the chronically ill and the disabled have not yet been called to be vaccinated. The focus has been on the over 80s, and presently the over 70s. The 60 year olds come next I believe but I am not sure when that will begin, and then it is the turn of the chronically ill. So, a few more weeks of waiting for those with ME, and other difficult illnesses.

I am a caregiver, so I am not suffering from ME. I qualified for a jab on Friday, as I am the caregiver of a very elderly Mother. I must say, the side effects of the Moderna Vaccine were not pleasant. Upon returning home, I collapsed on the chesterfield and was unable to move my body for several hours; the arm was sore also. There was a general feeling of being unwell. During the night, even yesterday, the discomfort continued until I took Ibuprofen again, as well as Robaxin and believe it or not, 1/4 tablet of Propanalol. I feel alright today. The second jab is scheduled for the end of June--3 months from now. I am not sure if that is good idea or not, but the policy here seems to be to vaccinate the majority of the population with at least one shot. My friends, those who have had 2 jabs, are reporting that staying in bed for several days to one week was not unusual--fever, sick feeling, nausea. They all had the Phizer.

I hope that when my daughter receives her vaccination, things will be bearable.
 
My sister works at a research hospital abroad, and "many" staff members were sick for a few days after the Oxford vaccine. She gets hers next week.
 
Mij said:
My sister works at a research hospital abroad, and "many" staff members were sick for a few days after the Oxford vaccine. She gets hers next week.
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For more detail on side effects of Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccine, see details of Zoe study #282. Results report more symptoms with first AZ than second and reverse for Pfizer.
 
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