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China Confirms New Coronavirus Spreads From Humans to Humans

Discussion in 'Health News and Research unrelated to ME/CFS' started by Patient4Life, Jan 20, 2020.

  1. Patient4Life

    Patient4Life Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    China Confirms New Coronavirus Spreads From Humans to Humans (Jan 20, 2020) By Javier C. Hernández and Austin Ramzy - The New York Times

    A top Chinese government-appointed expert says a mysterious respiratory illness that has killed at least three people can be transmitted by humans, heightening concern about the outbreak.








     
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  2. Leila

    Leila Established Member (Voting Rights)

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    Sounds like the movie "Contagion" :/
     
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  4. Hip

    Hip Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    So far out of the 300 confirmed cases of this new coronavirus, 6 people have died. So presumably that's a 2% fatality rate. Ref: here.

    Thus if it does spread to the rest of the world's 7.8 billion population, I guess that's potentially 2% of the world dying, or 156 million deaths. That may beat the Spanish flu pandemic of 1918, which caused an estimated 20 to 50 million deaths worldwide.

    Human to human transmission of this coronavirus is confirmed possible, and as coronavirus is an RNA virus rather than a DNA virus, it's subject to rapid mutation, so could quickly evolve into a form which is spread more easily.

    The WHO are going to decide tomorrow (Wednesday) whether to declare an international emergency.

     
  5. Cheshire

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    it's the fatality rate of contaminated people. I guess if the epidemy were to spread and the mortality rate stayed stable, as not everybody would be contaminated, the death toll would be less severe.
     
  6. Hip

    Hip Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Yes, it depends on what percentage of the population is infected with the virus. And that will depend on the evolution of the virus, and whether it evolves into a form which is more easily transmissible. If that does not happen, perhaps the outbreak will have only a limited impact.

    Apparently with the 1918 Spanish flu, 28% of the US became infected.
     
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    They are taking passengers temperature while boarding or on planes for the lunar year.
     
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  8. Hip

    Hip Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    It's interesting that in the 2003 SARS coronavirus outbreak in China (where the mortality rate was 11%), some of the survivors developed post-SARS syndrome, an ME/CFS-like condition.
     
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  9. Mij

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    Where did you read this? I have only seen developments of PTSD post SARS.
     
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  10. Hip

    Hip Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    It's been discussed on ME/CFS forums before. Here is a paper.
     
  11. Patient4Life

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    How bad is this compared to the swine flu scare back in 2009(?) ?
     
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    British Columbia announced today they are taking the outbreak seriously by advising hospital staff, emergency services and airports.

    They said they now have a test for this virus:
    Just like like that. Not one person affected in the province or even in the country. But they have a diagnostic test.

    It sucks to have this illness. :( There are 78,000 British Columbians living with ME. No test, no meaningful health care.

    Edit to add: here is the link to the press release

    Edit #2: I understand this is an infectious disease that is deadly and spreads like wild fires. Seemingly governments understand that kind of emergency.
     
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  14. Milo

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    There was a SARS outbreak in Toronto. I have also read that some went on to develop ME. i forgot where i read that from.
     
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    The people of China will need their government now more than ever I wonder if they will be taking precautions over limiting travel, mass inoculations, policy changes, limitations on liberties and extra personal data collection. Once they get this all under control the death toll will be in the tens.
     
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    My thoughts exactly.
     
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    Super, hope they’re not doing it in north Vietnam too, my temperature is always crazy. I’m currently floating around in the sea not far from China. Had a hacking cough for last few weeks with temperature but I seem to have shaken it. Tons of people with hacking coughs here.
     
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    That's amazingly fast work by the scientific community. This Wuhan coronavirus made its first appearance on 31 Dec 2019, and now within 3 weeks, we already have a PCR test for it (according to the WHO website).
     
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