Characterization, Treatment, and Long-term Follow-up of Fatigued Patients in Primary Care (iFAS), Lindsäter et al

Discussion in 'Psychosomatic research - ME/CFS and Long Covid' started by mango, Jan 22, 2025.

  1. MittEremltage

    MittEremltage Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I also can't see it in any other way. This comes at a time when there is a lot of talk about the increase in sick leave and the Social Insurance Agency is warning that exhaustion disorder (ED) accounts for the largest increase. ED is Lindsäters' entry point in this study.
     
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    I hope the Covid Association is trying to tell them that the increase probably is an increase in LC?
     
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    MittEremltage Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    There is so much going on right now, and I don't have the capacity to keep up with everything. But I don't think I've seen any direct questioning of that particular issue. Unfortunately.
     
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    Utsikt Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I don’t expect you to be able to follow everything, you’re already on top of so much!

    We have a huge debate in Norway regarding the increase in sick leave, and fortunately some researchers and doctors have been trying to explain that you have to consider covid as a massive contributor. It’s a shame if the same isn’t happening in Sweden.
     
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    Sadly the political debate here in the UK seems to be pretending that Long Covid does not exist in the context of increasing numbers of long term sick/disabled.
     
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    MittEremltage Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I didn't perceive you as demanding; it's mostly that I'm so incredibly frustrated that I can't keep up.

    The Swedish Covid Association currently has a campaign to show the extent of post-Covid, where they themselves have funded a SIFO survey. 'Sweden' is not trying to find out the extent of the problems themselves, so the discussions are at the level of 'we actually exist'." As @Peter Trewhitt describes it…

    https://covidforeningen-se.translat..._sl=sv&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=sv&_x_tr_pto=wapp
     
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    Utsikt Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    @Peter Trewhitt @MittEremltage
    That’s the level of the Norwegian discussion as well. Some politicians have been talking about LC, but they don’t seem to understand the gravity of the situation.
     
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    MittEremltage Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Or is it a choice not to understand?
     
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    Utsikt Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Maybe a bit of both. My parents don’t fully understand either, even though they have to care for me because I’m bedbound as a result of covid.

    It’s difficult to question your reality, but it’s also convenient for politicians to just not do it properly.
     
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    Not just that, but I've seen many discussions on UK social media insisting that it's only happening in the UK, completely detaching any possibility of this being because of COVID, since many literally insist that since it's not happening anywhere else, it can't be that. So the same "this is only happening here" discussion is happening in multiple countries at the same time. Absolute insanity. Experts are destroying the concept of truth even more efficiently than the most fevered conspiracy fantasies.

    I see a lot of people, especially experts, deploring how some things are being handled, looking at the US becoming pro infection, the same herd immunity 'logic' being applied to measles and general indifference to bird flu, and being completely unwilling to make any connection to the expert and government messaging on COVID that has fueled the conspiracy movement so much in recent years.

    They are making literally all the same arguments that apply with COVID, even as they themselves argue the very same things that the conspiracy crowds are pushing. The world is sinking deeper into madness as time goes on.
     

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