Book: When Force Meets Fate by Jamison Hill, published January 2021

I've ordered a copy.

 

Jamison did a Twitter Q&A with ME Action about the book. Tweets about the topic can be found in this Twitter search

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https://twitter.com/search?q=#WhenForceMeetsFate notthewhiskey&src=typed_query

 

Got my e-book last week & read it. Best description of the experience of ME that I've read.

 

Where did you get the e-book, please? I haven't found anywhere to buy it yet, none of the places where I usually buy my e-books has it.

Ideally, I'd like to get it in epub format, downloadable to my laptop (because my e-reader doesn't have internet access), but I could convert a .mobi if necessary.

 

Hi Mango - I'm in Canada and preordered the e-book about a year ago when Jamison needed a certain number of orders to get it published. Downloaded in EPUB and read it on my laptop.

Here's a list of places the various formats (e-book, audible & hard copy) are available:

US: Amazon, Apple, Target, Barnes and Noble, Google Play, BooksAMillion, Book Depository (ships worldwide for free!), Indiebound, BookShop.

• Canada: Amazon, Kobo, Chapters/Indigo

• UK: Amazon

• Australia: Booktopia

• Mexico: Amazon

• Germany: Amazon

• Norway/Sweden: Book Depository, Adlibris

If this doesn't work for you let me know where you are and I'll look into it further.

I think pretty well everyone would find it interesting.

 

Thank you so much, Helene! Very kind I'm in Sweden.

(Adlibris unfortunately only sells hardback copies, doesn't deliver to your letterbox/doorstep, and I'm unable to pick up parcels from the post office. Book Depository don't sell e-books either, and I'm waiting to find out how their deliveries have changed after Brexit; I'm still waiting on a book I ordered from them 2 December 2020...)

I usually buy my e-books from either bokus.se, kobo.com or Google Play. Amazon.se doesn't sell e-books, and Amazon UK and US don't allow me to order from them.

Yes please, I'd appreciate help finding this book But only if it's not too much trouble, only if you actually have extra energy to spare or if anyone happens to find it by chance I don't mind waiting, there's no hurry.

I've obviously tried Google etc myself, but no luck so far. I've tried requesting books from Bokus and others before, but never had any luck with that either, they don't accept custom requests.

 

There's got to be a way. I've sent an email to Inkshares, the publisher to see what they suggest.

In the meantime, does anyone else have a suggestion for Mango on how to access this ebook?

 

Oh, contacting the publisher was a great idea! (I really should have thought of that...)

Many many thanks for being so helpful

 

Aha - seems you can just buy it online directly from Inkshares, the publisher. Here's their reply:


Inkshares <hello@inkshares.com>
10:53 AM (47 minutes ago)


Hi Helen,

She can order it directly from Inkshares here: https://www.inkshares.com/books/when-force-meets-fate-a-memoir-of-strength by clicking the "ebook" button. She'll get an email with download instructions (also via Inkshares).

Let me know if you have any other questions!

Regards,

The Inkshares Team

Inkshares Inc,
95 Linden St. Suite 6
Oakland, CA 94607
+1 415 890 6436
Copyright © 2021 Inkshares, Inc.

 

The book should be required reading for anyone who thinks exercise and positive thinking are the way out of ME - looking at you Paul Garner & BPS crew.

Jamison Hill is a bodybuilder/fitness fanatic who just won't quit trying to overcome ME by ignoring his illness and exercising, until he is totally bed bound.

Revelations on his experience with a well known American ME Dr are pretty shocking too.

Thank goodness for his mother who has kept this lovely young man alive.

 

Oh, really? It only said pre-order when I checked earlier. I double-checked now and it still says pre-order? Also, I wasn't able to find any info about the e-book on that page, like what format, expected release date, whether it's downloadable or only to stream/read in app etc.

Thank you so much for being so very kind and helpful! I'll email them my questions to be sure, and then hopefully place my order

Many many thanks, much appreciated

 

Which one?

 

Dr Peterson

 

I finally got a copy! Thanks again, @Helene

 

Excellent. Glad it worked out.

 

Just curious, what happened in this reference to Dr. Peterson?

 

Should it be required reading for someone who thinks exercise and positive thinking are no use?

 

Haven't read it yet - on my wishlist. I'm wondering what treatment has brought about his recent improvement. I really think ME is a mixed bag diagnosis with PEM as a common element. Some people have recognised coexisting conditions that may be treatable. I'd enjoy reading about that aspect, and also try to understand how bad very severe ME can get. I think very severe ME gets very little publicity and that would be interesting to learn about. So yes, I think it would be of interest.

 

I read some chapters and skimmed others, but it was an enjoyable read and Jamison is a great writer.

re: treatments, quoting the book:

I would attempt to summarize the Dr. Peterson chapter(s) but I don't want to get it wrong. I left with the feeling that Jamison was unimpressed, and the difference between him and Dr. Kaufman is starkly contrasted.