1. Sign our petition calling on Cochrane to withdraw their review of Exercise Therapy for CFS here.
    Dismiss Notice
  2. Guest, the 'News in Brief' for the week beginning 15th April 2024 is here.
    Dismiss Notice
  3. Welcome! To read the Core Purpose and Values of our forum, click here.
    Dismiss Notice

BACME: Position Paper on the management of Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/ Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS), Oct 2020

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS news' started by Andy, Oct 20, 2020.

  1. JemPD

    JemPD Senior Member (Voting Rights)

    Messages:
    3,973
    This
     
    MEMarge, Simbindi, EzzieD and 2 others like this.
  2. Invisible Woman

    Invisible Woman Senior Member (Voting Rights)

    Messages:
    10,280
    As @Trish said, to some extent. Many others will be left feeling guilty, shamed and inadequate. The damage to their confidence and self esteem will, in all likelihood, lead many of them to keep their mouths shut.

    Not only is directive CBT very effective at changing how some people fill in a questionnaire there is no doubt in my mind that it is equally effective at silencing some who have been harmed by it.

    Those people may have missed filling in patient surveys if they have withdrawn from contact with the ME community in the mistaken belief that this therapy works for most people and most people recover.

    Edit - added a missing word.
     
    Last edited: Nov 23, 2020
    Frankie, MEMarge, Sean and 8 others like this.
  3. Sly Saint

    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

    Messages:
    9,584
    Location:
    UK
    they now have updated versions of a couple of info sheets
    BACME: ME/CFS Guide to Therapy October 2020
    https://www.bacme.info/sites/bacme.info/files/BACME Guide to Therapy October 2020.pdf

    and
    ME/CFS Guide to Symptom Management
    October 2020
    https://www.bacme.info/sites/bacme.info/files/BACME Guide to Symptom Management October 2020.pdf

    also available thro their website:
    https://www.bacme.info/
     
  4. Jonathan Edwards

    Jonathan Edwards Senior Member (Voting Rights)

    Messages:
    13,496
    Location:
    London, UK
    So this seems to be GET without calling it GET and the same old desensitisation theory without calling it the same old theory.
    The recommendations are not based on theory but based on sort of theory. The procedures are not defined tested procedures but undefined untested procedures.

    It becomes about as meaningful as the lightening process.

    One odd thing is that it says that patients prefer an interdisciplinary approach because it means seeing fewer people - which is odd since an interdisciplinary approach involves more people.

    I have a sneaking feeling that this is a bid by the physiotherapists to take over all the interdisciplinary roles themselves - which is why they come first in the list. I think having a single health professional covering the management makes a lot of sense but I do not see why it should be a physiotherapist.
     
    Mithriel, cfsandmore, EzzieD and 16 others like this.
  5. Sly Saint

    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

    Messages:
    9,584
    Location:
    UK
    from 2013 JB explains exercise
    https://www.talkhealthpartnership.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=490&t=4604
     

Share This Page