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Why Bioethics Should Be Concerned With Medically Unexplained Symptoms. (2018) O'Leary

Discussion in 'Other psychosomatic news and research' started by Cheshire, May 1, 2018.

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  1. Trish

    Trish Moderator Staff Member

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    As I understand it, Dr O'Leary is a philosopher who specialises in medical ethics, and has taken a particular interest in how medical ethics applies in poorly understood and frequently misdiagnosed conditions that are swept up in the MUS/BDD etc classifications. So her focus is on writing papers about the ethics of such mis-classification from a philosopher/ethicist perspective.

    Perhaps her misunderstandings about the complexities of WHO classifications demonstrates a lack of expertise in areas beyond her training, or a lack of attention to the detail of the sort that @Dx Revision Watch has developed through focusing on this area. In which case, it is concerning that Dr O'Leary is offering herself as the expert to advise Forward ME on this.
     
    Trish, May 3, 2018
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    I am concerned with this contradiction: her paper, and then these statements. I don't think she doesn't know enough about the ICD process because she's involved.
     
    Inara, May 4, 2018
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    I agree. Initially I thought our problems with medical profession had a lot to do with lack of philosophical reasoning. I don't believe that anymore. Henrik Vogt (Phd in History and Philosophy of medicine..) helped me change my mind.
     
    Pechius, May 5, 2018
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    Inara Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    There are philosophers and "philosophers" - just as there are different characters.
     
    Inara, May 5, 2018
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  5. atillman

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    Hi all,
    Adriane, the editor from #MEAction.

    Would anyone be interested in writing a summary of this article for the general public?
     
    atillman, Oct 26, 2018
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  6. NelliePledge

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    Whoever writes a summary needs to cover the correction covered in @Dx Revision Watch posts on this thread.
     
    NelliePledge, Oct 26, 2018
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  7. Esther12

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    Just thought I'd link to the Kanaan response to this for those interested in this paper, even thought I didn't think his response was interesting:

    Neurologists, Psychiatrists, and the Angry Patients
    They Share
    Richard A. A. Kanaan

    http://sci-hub.tw/https://www.tandf...65161.2018.1445793?scroll=top&needAccess=true

    There was nothing in there I thought was worth quoting.

    It looks like there were other responses to this article as well.
     
    Esther12, Jan 18, 2019
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    If someone has access can they provide link tobfollowing page- the following article on what is FII looks both relevant and interesting .
     
    Amw66, Jan 18, 2019
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  9. Esther12

    Esther12 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Anyone can get access via scihub: http://sci-hub.tw/

    I googled the article's title, got the DOI, then entered into sci hub for this link:

    Medically Unexplained Symptoms and the Diagnosis of Medical Child Abuse.
    Eichner M1.

    http://sci-hub.tw/10.1080/15265161.2018.1447047
     
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    Amw66, Jan 18, 2019
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  11. Andy

    Andy Committee Member

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    Unless their ISP blocks access to SciHub, which is something I've had in the past.
     
    Andy, Jan 18, 2019
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