Upper Airway Resistance Syndrome (UARS): a common underlying cause for all "chronic complex illnesses"? (ME/CFS, fibro, GWI, etc.)

After visiting 5 different sleep clinics across 3 countries and consulting with multiple specialists at each, I have yet to find a single one that cares about anything other than AHI - no matter what the polysomnogram or OSCAR read-out might say about flow limitations. It is infuriating.
It's a disgrace.
For what it's worth, I would also caution that, while it can be life-saving and life-changing for some, PAP therapy can also be extremely difficult, disruptive, and potentially damaging for some pwME whose "rest" is already near non-existent and for whom a particularly stressful night can lead to a crash. Attempting to titrate CPAP certainly caused me a fair amount of trauma during the years when I thought it might prove the solution for my problems.
100%. I had a bit of a traumatizing experience myself trying out ASV (I decided to try it since even on BiPAP I was having quite a few central apneas and periods of irregular breathing); the pressure settings were not right the first night I tried it and it ramped the pressure up way too high, blowing air out my mouth. I had a horrible headache, anxiety & dry mouth the next morning. I ended up giving it another try (a couple weeks later cause I was scared to try again) with the lowest pressure settings (it did eliminate the central apneas but still resulted in too many pressure swings for me so I ended up just going back to regular BiPAP)

You may appreciate what Dr. Barry Krakow has to say on the topic (he is a big proponent of starting people on BiPAP/ASV rather than CPAP):

"This really stupid ignorant approach to 'Oh, take your CPAP machine home with you and use it for a couple of months and come back and talk to us.' That's horrible patient care, and many people get traumatized by it. We learned early on about this phenomenon: If you have someone go through that experience, they will not come back to a sleep lab for at least 1 year, and sometimes 5 years, because they hated what they had to go through that first time. We used to see thousands of CPAP failure cases and switch them over [to BiPAP/ASV] and these people were up in arms like 'Why didn't the doctors give us this device the first time? This is so easy to use, I could have used this 5 years ago. Why wasn't I given that opportunity?' That's still the way sleep medicine is practiced today, which is a big problem, in my opinion."

 
A couple anecdotal reports of major improvements in ME/CFS symptoms on CPAP:



Woman with ME/CFS for 10 years who was mostly bedbound now rarely has to use her wheelchair after being treated with CPAP for sleep apnea.

https://www.healthrising.org/blog/2...hronic-fatigue-syndrome-patients-life-around/

Woman with ME/CFS for over 30 years (& more recent difficulties with heart palpitations, angina & breathing problems) experienced dramatic improvement in her symptoms on CPAP after being diagnosed with sleep apnea:

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Here is an AI summary of the thread. Thank you @forestglip for doing this (they did it a long time ago, I had just missed it in DMs). @Trish I know you said my OP was hard to follow with the graphs, links, etc. so this may be more accessible.

Abstract

This document outlines the hypothesis, primarily developed by Dr. Avram Gold, that many "chronic complex illnesses"—including Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS), fibromyalgia (FM), and Gulf War Illness (GWI)—are driven by a dysfunctional stress response in the central nervous system (CNS). The core of this theory posits that the brain's limbic system becomes sensitized to inspiratory flow limitation (IFL) during sleep following a significant physiological or psychological stressor (e.g., infection, trauma, surgery). This sensitization transforms previously benign breathing resistance into a chronic, pathological stressor that perpetuates symptoms like fatigue, pain, cognitive dysfunction, and autonomic instability. This framework challenges the conventional understanding of sleep-disordered breathing by shifting the focus from apnea-hypopnea events and arousals to the neurological response to IFL. The evidence presented, drawn from clinical studies, case reports, and population data, suggests this mechanism is a factual cause for at least some cases of fibromyalgia and GWI, and warrants serious investigation for ME/CFS and other related conditions.



A central tenet of this hypothesis is that the current diagnostic paradigm for sleep-disordered breathing (SDB) is flawed and overlooks the primary driver of symptoms in many patients.
  • The Inadequacy of the Apnea-Hypopnea Index (AHI): The AHI, which measures complete and partial cessations of breathing, correlates poorly with symptoms like fatigue and sleepiness. This is underscored by the fact that over 50% of individuals with diagnosed Obstructive Sleep Apnea (OSA, AHI ≥5) are asymptomatic. If apneas, hypopneas, and the resulting arousals were the primary cause of symptoms, a stronger correlation would be expected.
  • The Central Role of Inspiratory Flow Limitation (IFL): The hypothesis proposes that the crucial pathological event is not necessarily apnea but IFL—the subtle, often inaudible "fluttering" or resistance in the upper airway during inhalation. This includes snoring but also non-audible resistance. Large-scale epidemiological data supports this, showing that snoring (a proxy for IFL) is more strongly associated with daytime sleepiness than AHI, even in individuals with a "normal" AHI of <5. This suggests millions of symptomatic individuals are being undertreated because their AHI falls below the arbitrary diagnostic threshold.


Dr. Gold's theory is not that airway resistance itself causes these illnesses, but that the brain's reaction to it does.
  • A Two-Step Process:
    1. Pre-existing Condition: An individual has a baseline level of IFL during sleep, which their brain does not perceive as a threat.
    2. Sensitizing Event: A significant stressor—such as an infection, physical trauma, surgery, chemical exposure, or severe psychological stress—activates the body's primary stress pathway, the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal (HPA) axis.
  • The Sensitization Mechanism: This HPA axis activation leads to the sensitization of the limbic system (the brain's emotional and stress-response center). The hypothesis suggests this may occur via the olfactory nerve, which senses changes in nasal airflow and pressure and has direct connections to the limbic system.
  • Pathological Consequence: Post-sensitization, the brain begins to interpret the previously ignored IFL as a noxious, threatening stimulus. This triggers a recurring, nightly stress response that drives the diverse symptoms of chronic illness, from profound fatigue and body-wide pain to autonomic dysfunction and cognitive impairment.


Multiple lines of evidence support the connection between IFL and chronic complex illnesses.

A controlled study provides the strongest direct evidence for this theory:
  • Objective Sleep Findings: 18 veterans with GWI were compared to 11 asymptomatic, age- and BMI-matched Gulf War veterans. The GWI group experienced IFL during 96% ± 5% of their sleep, whereas the control group experienced it only 36% ± 25% of the time. This difference was highly statistically significant (p<0.0001).
  • Treatment Efficacy: When treated with therapeutic CPAP, the GWI patients experienced significant improvements in fatigue, pain, and cognitive function. This subjective improvement was directly correlated with an objective finding: a decrease in sleep stage shifts. The control group, which received sham CPAP, did not improve and in fact worsened slightly.
The link to fibromyalgia is supported by physiological data, prevalence studies, and case reports:
  • Increased Airway Collapsibility: A study by Dr. Gold found that individuals with fibromyalgia have a more collapsible upper airway, measured by the pharyngeal critical closing pressure (Pcrit). This anatomical predisposition provides a physical basis for increased IFL.
  • High Prevalence of SDB: One study found that when polysomnography was offered to consecutive female fibromyalgia patients in a rheumatology clinic, 100% of the 23 who agreed to testing had OSA, with 83% having an AHI >15. This prevalence is drastically higher than the ~17% found in the general female population.
  • Symptom Resolution with Treatment: At least two independent case reports from different countries document the near-complete resolution of severe, long-standing fibromyalgia symptoms following treatment for SDB (one with CPAP, one with a mandibular advancement device). Critically, one report documented that alpha-delta sleep—an objective biomarker associated with fibromyalgia—disappeared along with the patient's symptoms after treatment.
The theory also explains the different autonomic presentations between UARS and classic OSA:
  • UARS and Hypotension: One study found that 93 out of 400 consecutive UARS patients at Stanford had low blood pressure, and all 15 who underwent tilt-table testing had orthostatic hypotension. In contrast, only 2 out of 3,369 OSA patients had low blood pressure.
  • Mechanism of Divergence: It is hypothesized that the prolonged, sub-atmospheric pressure in the nasal airway during IFL (characteristic of UARS) leads to sympathetic nerve dysfunction and hypotension. Conversely, the recurrent hypoxemia seen in classic OSA triggers repetitive pressor responses, eventually leading to daytime hypertension.

This hypothesis provides a unifying framework that can explain many puzzling aspects of ME/CFS and related illnesses.
  • Diverse Triggers: It accounts for how any type of severe stressor—not just infections—can trigger an identical syndrome by focusing on HPA axis activation as the common pathway to sensitization.
  • Post-Exertional Malaise (PEM): PEM can be understood as a manifestation of a dysfunctional CNS stress response. Exertion (physical, cognitive, or emotional) acts as an additional stressor on an already over-taxed system, leading to a crash. This aligns with observations that CNS depressants (e.g., benzodiazepines) can sometimes prevent or reduce PEM.
  • Partial Efficacy of Treatment: It explains why treatments like CPAP/BiPAP often provide significant (~35-50%) but incomplete relief. While these therapies reduce IFL, the device itself (pressure, mask) can act as a new stressor on a highly sensitized nervous system, preventing full recovery. More curative treatments may involve surgery or, for some, nervous system regulation techniques that aim to desensitize the stress response itself.
 
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I think the main points I outlined are pretty straightforward, logical, and based on the (few) reliable data that we have. Yet the entire field seems to be pursuing almost everything else but this, and in (what seems to be at least) a chaotic, non-systematic way. Blood clots, endothelial dysfunction, reduced blood flow and hypoxia, viral persistence, antibodies, mitochondrial dysfunction, red blood cell deformity, the mTOR pathway, reduced microbiome diversity, CCI, mRNI, extracellular vesicle cargo, invasive cardiopulmonary exercise testing, etc. Most of these do not fit well with the framework and datapoints that we already have about ME/CFS. Not saying they should not be studied or that it is foolish to do so, but they do not seem the most obvious places to look.
100%, couldn't have said it better myself, which is why I am asking people to pay attention to upper airway resistance syndrome (UARS) (see the AI summary that has now been generated) because it provides an actual plausible theory for what is causing the CNS disturbance in ME/CFS (and it is not incompatible with this "symptom signaling" hypothesis - in fact it fits quite nicely with it).

A peripheral neuropathy could be described as exaggerated/false/distorted signals reaching the brain.

When I spent time visiting SFN forums, it was obvious a portion of patients had PEM and could easily meet diagnostic criteria for ME/CFS. But the general sentiment was that ME/CFS was something to take distance from, because it was mysterious and subjective, while SFN was more real and could be supported by a biopsy.

I hope one day we will understand how all this fits together.
Dr. Sarah Schafer has discussed how some/many Sjogren's patients (which can cause both peripheral neuropathy as well as CNS involvement) seem to have a flavor of PEM, though she feels that it differs from the PEM in ME/CFS in lacking the delayed onset and the possibility of leading to enduring declines in baseline seen in ME/CFS.



I've spent a lot of time in spaces for people with psychiatric drug injuries ("protracted withdrawal" from SSRI/SNRIs/benzos, and PSSD) and many people with these issues report most symptoms associated with ME/CFS aside from PEM. I suspect that autonomic/sensory neuropathy is likely driving many of the symptoms in these folks, which some informal evidence points to (perhaps this and/or more enduring changes to neurotransmitters/receptors in the brain depending on the person).

So I do think true delayed-onset PEM associated with significant/prolonged declines in baseline sets ME/CFS apart from peripheral neuropathies and points towards a CNS dysfunction (the only other disorder I'm aware of with a similar type of PEM [based on anecdotal reports] is CCI/brainstem compression, which also involves a major perturbation to the CNS).

High rates of SFN seen in ME/CFS (& fibromyalgia) could be downstream of chronic hypoperfusion caused by UARS, which appears to be able to cause low blood pressure and orthostatic intolerance/hypotension, possibly driven by abnormal autonomic nervous system responses to inspiratory flow limitation during sleep. The normal "R-R interval" heartrate responses in the 15 UARS patients with low BP who underwent tilt table testing (all of whom had orthostatic hypotension) argue against autonomic neuropathy as the cause of their orthostatic hypotension.

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How can the neuronal signalling problems explain the objective evidence from David Systrom’s invasive CPET work around reducing filling pressures of the heart and oxygen extraction problems during exercise?
UARS could theoretically explain preload failure too; from the paper discussed above: "Children with UARS can have dramatic swings in intrathoracic pressure that compromise the intraventricular septum, leading to changes in ejection fraction.” Per AI response: "Yes, this can explain why upper airway resistance syndrome (UARS) might cause preload failure. The dramatic swings in intrathoracic pressure associated with UARS can compromise the intraventricular septum's function. This affects the heart's ability to fill properly during diastole, reducing preload. The altered intraventricular septum dynamics and subsequent changes in ejection fraction can impair ventricular filling, leading to decreased cardiac output and preload failure."

However, according to the general theory of UARS causing ME/CFS and related disorders, we had sleep-disordered breathing before we developed symptoms including dysautonomia (so presumably the above mechanism would have been occurring pre-illness, and thus wouldn't explain the onset of dysautonomia/orthostatic intolerance along with other ME/CFS symptoms), so I think it's less likely to be explained by that and more likely by hypovolemia (possibly caused by the abnormal ANS responses to inspiratory flow limitation [IFL] during sleep, which may be ultimately connected to the hypothesized limbic stress response to IFL), as hypovolemia can also cause preload failure. The authors state "The coexistence of resting tachycardia and orthostatic hypotension (demonstrable in this study during tilt-table testing) is suggestive of clinically significant hypovolemia."

Discussion of PEM and Sjogrens has been moved to this thread
 
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A couple anecdotal reports of major improvements in ME/CFS symptoms on CPAP:



Woman with ME/CFS for 10 years who was mostly bedbound now rarely has to use her wheelchair after being treated with CPAP for sleep apnea.

https://www.healthrising.org/blog/2...hronic-fatigue-syndrome-patients-life-around/

Woman with ME/CFS for over 30 years (& more recent difficulties with heart palpitations, angina & breathing problems) experienced dramatic improvement in her symptoms on CPAP after being diagnosed with sleep apnea:

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I'm not sure if this is the right place to use anecdotal reports as evidence for a certain theory, as it does not provide meaningful scientific discussion. Along with that, this anecdotal evidence points to having sleep apena, then getting treated for sleep apena improves quality of life.
 
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I'm not sure if this is the right place to use anecdotal reports as evidence for a certain theory, as it does not provide meaningful scientific discussion.
You are free to disregard it. I added it in a comment in the thread stating that it was an anecdotal report, not in the OP. People discuss anecdotal reports (their own and other) as they pertain to various theories on this forum all the time.
Along with that, this anecdotal evidence points to having sleep apena, then getting treated for sleep apena improves quality of life.
This anecdotal report does not support the traditional paradigm of sleep-disordered breathing where sleep fragmentation by (apnea/hypopnea-related) arousals is proposed to cause primarily the symptoms of sleepiness and cognitive dysfunction. A woman with ME/CFS for 10 years who was mostly bedbound went from having symptoms like being unable to tolerate light/music/visitors, unable to walk to the bathroom by herself, etc. to now rarely having to use her wheelchair, being able to walk in her garden, etc. This supports that sleep-disordered breathing was playing a major role in her severe ME/CFS symptoms (which is not readily explained by the traditional paradigm of sleep fragmentation by arousals).
 
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