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Twitter activity of Professor Blanchflower

Discussion in 'General Advocacy Discussions' started by Obermann, Feb 11, 2019.

  1. Amw66

    Amw66 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    You have to compare like with like to have any argument. There have been numerous redefinitions of " employment" which enable figures to be massaged. It is an apples and pears argument.

    There has always been a difference in unemployed and " in work" , and the latter seems to have undergone various changes. Note that a lot of soundbites relate to being " in work" , not unemployed. People infer a simple relationship that is far more complex.

    Sorry to take thread tangentially elsewhere but you are not considered unemployed if you do 1 hr/ fortnight ' s work and those that are not paid are still " employed" .

    Zero hours contracts are particularly insidious as you can have zilch job security, no work.for periods of time( and no pay) yet your contract retains you as an employee .

    Successive governments use redefinitions of terms to suit their agendas

    An example of figure massaging

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2013/jan/15/employment-figures-how-unpaid-get-counted

    It is a bit like the definition of poverty - it has been tweaked to the extent that it cannot be compared to past figures either
     
  2. Obermann

    Obermann Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I appreciate that figures such as unemployment can be defined in different ways, and that both Blanchflower’s and Guido Fawkes’s statements must be put in a political context. However, I think that we are way off topic now. I didn’t intend to make any political statement, neither left-wing nor right-wing. The question is whether a picture with the headline “100% wrong” can be used for satire.
     
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  3. Amw66

    Amw66 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Sorry - i' not a morning person ! Context not fully appreciated
     
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    Luther Blissett Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Concerned troll is very concerned. Simple rule of the internet, do not feed the trolls. It's what they want. You can never win, so why waste time with such bad faith people?
     
  6. Obermann

    Obermann Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    It reminds me of the comment by Nasim Marie Jafry on the dialogue between James David Chapman and Professor Danny Blanchflower. The Mutual Admiration Society in session ...

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    ScottTriGuy Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Freudian slip there Rona?
     
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  9. benji

    benji Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    If there only was a way to troll them away.
     
  10. JaimeS

    JaimeS Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Whoooboy someone with the #MEAction logo as their icon on Twitter engaged with Chapman and got "please don't contact me ever again, MEAction!"

    We contacted the original user and asked them not to use the logo (it was a well-meaning person) but too late.

    More fuel for the harassment meme. :banghead::banghead::banghead:
     
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    Esther12 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Scandal: Well-meaning person replies to tweet!
     
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  12. JaimeS

    JaimeS Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    siiiiiiiigh
     
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  13. chrisb

    chrisb Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I don't feel able to reread all the posts about Blanchflower. Was it ever mentioned that his work seems to be mentioned approvingly by Richard Layard. (I presume that all know of Layard's connection to the IAPT project.)

    In 2005 Layard published the book Happiness: Lessons from a New Science, in which he emphasised the importance of non-income variables on aggregate happiness. His book summarises the prior empirical findings produced by economists such as Richard Easterlin, David G Blanchflower, Andrew E Clark, Rafael Di Tella, Robert MacCulloch, and Andrew Oswald. In particular he stressed the role of mental health and argued that psychological treatments ought to be much more widely available.

    from Wikipedia


    and in this
    eprints.lse.ac.uk/47440/1/Big%20ideas%20wellbeing%20and%20public%20policy%20%28lsero%29.pdf


    Big Ideas: wellbeing and public policy. (2012)

    It would seem that he has a dog in the fight.
     

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