Grigor
Senior Member (Voting Rights)
My response to Knoop et al. to an opinion piece in a Dutch national newspaper. Mostly myth busting.
http://anilvanderzee.com/the-denouement/
http://anilvanderzee.com/the-denouement/
Didn't know where to put it. Please do if it's any better. Thank you!!!can this thread be moved to a public forum rather than a Members only?
Very important, that bit. Seems to have been swamped a bit lately by the – highly justified – critiques focusing on subjective outcome measures in open label studies and changes in outcome measures part way through a study. So it's good to bring it to the forefront again. If you don't start with a well-defined patient cohort any study results will be invalid, no matter how good or bad the study methods are afterwards.They create an image of this disease as being mainly about chronic fatigue. This notion is a central theme in the studies by professor Knoop and professor Bleijenberg. Often criteria are used where chronic fatigue is the primary focus, and where PEM is only optional (variation on the FUKUDA criteria) or worse: completely absent (variation on the OXFORD criteria).
Howard Zucker said:In the past, cognitive behavior therapy (CBT) and a graded exercise therapy (GET) were recommended as treatments. However, these recommendations were based on studies that included patients with other fatiguing conditions. Because of the hallmark intolerance to exertion of ME/CFS, exercise may actually worsen the health of those living with this disease.
A couple of hundred years ago or so it would have been Wizard, Shamen, Soothsayer, etc.Conflating of chronic fatigue with ME It's amazing that "professor" and "evidence based" are part of Knoop's title description
Exactly That's why I also added a picture of a magician Though that's already way too much credit for Knoop.A couple of hundred years ago or so it would have been Wizard, Shamen, Soothsayer, etc.
It can be worth shortening and seeing if it can be published, or even submitted as an opinion pieceI send it to them but my blog is way too long I think. Let's see.
I understandI know. But PEM is in the way at the moment