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Sleep Education in Primary School Prevents Future School Refusal Behavior, 2019, Miike et al

Discussion in 'Psychosomatic research - ME/CFS and Long Covid' started by Andy, Jul 22, 2019.

  1. Andy

    Andy Committee Member

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    Paywall, https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/ped.13976
    Sci hub, https://sci-hub.se/10.1111/ped.13976
     
  2. Sarah94

    Sarah94 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I was going to say oh dear, but then I remembered that during my A-Levels*, there were a couple of times when I missed school due to being exhausted from staying up late working on my coursework or on my university applications. I don't think that "sleep education" would have prevented that though.

    *I did not have ME at this time
     
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    Hmm. "School refusal, or school avoidance, is a term used to describe the signs of anxiety a school-aged child has and his or her refusal to go to school." (I got this definition from the Internet.) Surely that is different to somebody having difficulty awakening due to a sleep disorder?!
     
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  5. James Morris-Lent

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    This is simply not a scientific study design. Foremost, it is not controlled.

    The conclusions are implausible to anybody who has ever been a teenager.
     
  6. Hutan

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    I think you've summed up this study very well @Sarah94. edit and James ML.

    The authors might have a valid point; i.e. that poor sleep habits account for a significant proportion of the young people who fail to get to secondary school. But this small study and the way the data is presented isn't enough to prove that, and certainly isn't enough to prove that some sleep education fixes the problem.

    The authors seem to mix wild speculation into their arguments. For instance they observe that the program in one primary school where sleep education was given to children and their families in all grades was more successful than the program in two other primary schools where only the older children and their families were targeted. They then conclude that
    They also seem to be suggesting that all problems that might be causing school refusal stem from lack of sleep, and that chronic fatigue syndrome = chronic sleep deprivation.
    And they write approvingly of some pretty intrusive suggestions for approaches to solving this problem of deranged sleep:

    Yes, quite clearly it's the fault of the volley-ball playing mothers, because it seems the fathers can't be expected to get the children to bed when the mothers are out.
     
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    Ah yes, I well remember telling my fetuses to go to sleep! :rolleyes: :wtf:
     
  8. CFS_for_19_years

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    Their definition of CFS isn't even close to any the definitions we use:
    It's the same misuse of the term CFS when applied to mice that are forced to swim to exhaustion.

    This study is about sleep disruption leading to poor school attendance leading to "school refusal behavior" that is given the inappropriate term CFS.
     
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