Discussion in 'PsychoSocial ME/CFS Research' started by Valentijn, Nov 30, 2017.
Simon Wessely is nothing more than a callous monomaniacal fantasist, who just will not accept that he and his grand idea are wrong, and causing great harm. He would rather perpetuate this cruel farce, than simply admit he botched it big time. He regards his ego and the fairy tales in his head as more important than our actual welfare and lives out here in the real world.
You know, a coward.
History will not be kind to him and his like minded colleagues. Nothing can change that now.
Wow, amazing that one man can be responsible for so much idiocy over such a long period of time. Thank you for all your hard work on putting together this compilation, it really is compulsive trainwreck reading matter. It would be funny if it wasn't so harmful.
Super-ironic considering that this lot have proved over and over that they have no common sense.
"In addition we believe that understanding of the post viral fatigue syndrome has been hindered by doctors who suffer from the condition also researching it. Though medical training affords insight into the subjective effects of illness, it is axiomatic that objectivity is not similarly enhanced."
Post viral fatigue syndrome: time for a new approach. David, Wessely, Pelosi
Is this not the source of the argument which was recently used against Gerraghty? It might be coincidental. I don't think Wessely played any part in that debate.
EDIT I put this on the wrong thread. It was meant to be on the Wessely quotes one. Sorry.
"Unfortunately homosexual doctors who also study conversion therapy and the data of the therapy and the claims made by homophobic doctors have hindered the cure".
Yeah, that's a good one. I think I'll add a section for his quotes about patient involvement and open data
He made a similar statement shortly after in a published letter, which isn't too surprising since he tends to recycle the bits he's especially proud of:
Good examples of just how ruthless a political manipulator Wessely can be.
''but clinical research should be carried out by those without the inevitable, albeit unconscious, biases caused by suffering from this condition.''
''but clinical research should be carried out by those without the inevitable, albeit unconscious, biases caused by building a career on a false theory.''
So a possible solution is to become an alcoholic or at least to have the drink at the end of a working day? Or is Wesseley saying indirectly how grand alcohol is for him? Indeed, it is a good antidepressant.
I think he's saying that he's a moron who can't distinguish between correlation and causation, and who views absolutely everything in a psychological framework, no matter how ridiculous.
After reading all these statements I feel a certain amount of disdain for those people.
That sounds like a very restrained response!
@Daisymay linked to a homepage by Margeret Williams,
One can find some documents about things Mr. Wesseley said, too.
E.g. "Wesseley's quote re Mayo Clinic" from Dec. 31st, 2017, p. 1:
First, I simply cannot believe that this man believes all the rubbish he says. Or, "if he does he's an idiot, and if not he's an enemy" (based loosely on a quote from an HBO series: "If you didn't know you're an idiot, and if you did you're my enemy").
Second, most people disdain psychiatric diagnoses - not only people with CFS - leading to resentment and anger, because they are degraded; except those who want those diagnoses and go and ask for them. Resentment and anger, in my opinion, are healthy and respectful reactions to persons who behave disrespectfully and degradingly. People with ME have any reason to dislike psychiatry and many doctors.
Third, there's a saying: "What goes around, comes around". So people who behave unethically, contemptuously and disrespectfully expect to be treated with love and respect - seriously? The only problem here are the people, like Wessely et al., that don't question their behavior, but remain arrogant and only see the fault in others.
And last, in this quote, again, Mr. Wessely proves his disgust for people with ME, for people with psychiatric diagnoses, for sick people, probably for people in general, unless they are himself or royal.
People with ME are broadly treated highly disrespectfully; it is right to resent psychiatrists and doctors who haven't learned some basic rules of behavior. In a way, it speaks for the ME community that it dislikes and distrusts psychiatry and doctors/persons who behave similarly - they won't be the victim.
A crafty moron who doesn't want to distinguish I suspect.
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